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 Sheboygan staged shootout turns a bit too real 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:28 pm 
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http://www.nbc26.com/Global/story.asp?S=9527368

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A staged shootout got a little too real when two people were shot with a gun mistakenly loaded with birdshot.


The Sheboygan County Sheriff's Capt. Dave Adams says the shooting happened about 11 a.m. Sunday during a train robbery re-enactment held as part of the weekend Santa Steam Train event. Adams says participants were acting out a shootout between the train robbers and police when a gun sprayed 46 shotgun pellets into the arm, leg and abdomen of 49-year-old re-enactor Thomas E. Rumpff of Sheboygan.

Two pellets struck a 14-year-old spectator from Random Lake. One embedded in his index finger, and another bounced off his knee. Adams says both were treated at a hospital for
non-life-threatening injuries.


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Bird shot is not a self defense round. Good to know.


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hmmm when i was a kid i saw a re enacted shoot out in the black hills. even though they were using blanks they still either shot into the air or straight into the ground just to be extra careful.

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someone1980 wrote:
Bird shot is not a self defense round. Good to know.


A com hit from across your kitchen will change your mind about that.

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someone1980 wrote:
Bird shot is not a self defense round. Good to know.


A com hit from across your kitchen will change your mind about that.

John


Sure. But down the long hallway from bedroom to front door out of a 18" un-chocked barrel?


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Unless you're planning on being attacked by birds, don't use birdshot as a defensive round.

Even at across-your-kitchen distance, birdshot is going to leave a messy but shallow wound. I would expect that in many cases (other than point-blank) you could probably walk away from it.

I mean it's better than nothing, but since you have the choice of what to load in your defensive gun, choose buckshot or slugs.

Some interesting shotgun ballistics:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=109958


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