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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:48 pm 
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Man accidentally fires gun in restaurant
By Sara Israelsen-Hartley
Deseret News
Published: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:57 p.m. MDT
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PROVO — Want a 9mm bullet with that fettuccine alfredo?

One Olive Garden patron got a bit more at lunch than he planned Wednesday after his concealed weapon accidentally discharged.

The man was seated in the bar area of the Italian restaurant, 504 W. 2230 North, when he tried to adjust his 9mm pistol in his hip holster, said Provo Police Lt. John Geyerman.

Somehow the gun fired and a bullet became lodged in the man's chair. No one was injured in the 1:15 p.m. incident and the slug was later recovered by police.

Several patrons report hearing what sounded like a balloon popping, but they didn't see anything out of the ordinary.

Barbara Kunzler said she was eating her lunch with some friends and they were talking about all the recent shootings in the news.

"Then all of a sudden the gun went off," she said. "I didn't see it, but it was definitely a gun."

She said several of the servers moved quickly to see what was wrong, and their server came back and said it wasn't something that had dropped, but it was indeed a gun that had accidentally discharged.

Just before 2 p.m., Provo police led the 39-year-old man out of the back of Olive Garden in handcuffs and drove him away in a police car.

Geyerman said it was just a precaution and would give them a chance to interview him in a less crowded area to ensure that the shot was purely accidental.

The man, who has a valid concealed weapons permit, was taken to the Provo police station and interviewed, then released with a citation for discharging a firearm within the city limits, Geyerman said.

"You have to be careful," he said. "You don't want to be messing with (your gun) in your holster."

Geyerman said the gun was kept by Provo police for safekeeping until the Bureau of Criminal Identification can determine what to do with the man's permit.

After the shooting, lunch continued as normal with many patrons leaving who were completely oblivious to the shot.

"What? I was in there!" One woman exclaimed when told why news media were gathered outside the restaurant.


Dont sit in the back of a police car just to talk it out!

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I've had a gun oops at an Olive Garden before. I accidentally dragged a speed strip out of my pocket along with my wallet when preparing to pay. It fell to the floor under the table and no one noticed.

"Adjusting pistol in the holster"... Shirt tail in front of the trigger?


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"Somehow the gun fired". Man that is a worn out explanation. Like its some huge mystery how 99% of guns happen to fire.

More like, somehow the trigger got pulled.

Interesting to see how the story ends up. Guy might just have donated his 9mm to the local PD.

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Would the same occur if the patron was an off-duty or retired law enforcement officer?

:?: :idea:

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Was it a glock?





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Would the same occur if the patron was an off-duty or retired law enforcement officer?

Of course not, only LEO's are capable of having an accident, the rest of us are just dangerous and should not have the same rights :roll:


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EJSG19 wrote:
"Somehow the gun fired". Man that is a worn out explanation. Like its some huge mystery how 99% of guns happen to fire.

More like, somehow the trigger got pulled.

Interesting to see how the story ends up. Guy might just have donated his 9mm to the local PD.


naw, In utah, if the witness's etc follow up his statements, he's fine.

As to the first part, yes the trigger got pulled or the gun had a fault, but it can happen, I know three places in which cops who are carrying undercover or off duty tried to do something and managed to get the gun to go off. One was in his car, as he got in, the seat belt buckle managed to lever his gun out of his holster. When he went to push it back in, he was unable to because the seat belt buckle was in the way, but he just tried to move and reholster, when he moved his butt, the gun went off. luckily doing no damage to him and merely poking a hole in his seat and the floor pan. Yes it was a Glock, But I think a revolver might have had the same issue too.

Hopkins had an AD by a LEO many years ago in one of the restaurants on main street. That was a revolver, and it seems he got the hammer stuck on or in his shirt, and when he tried to pull the shirt out, the gun went off. It was felt that from the angle, his shirt tale was intertwined with the hammer and pulling the shirt it had enough grip to pull the hammer bast the critical point. He got a red stripe on his fanny from the bullet, but that was it. He was sitting at a table with 6 others, and none said he was playiing with the gun.

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Accidents can happen.
I hope these rare incidents are enough of an example to keep Mr. complacency away from all of us.
A good reminder to all of us to keep your head screwed on straight. :)


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Two things that can prevent this: good gear and good procedure.

A good-quality holster and belt, which keeps the gun in one place so it doesn't get out of whack.

When the gun goes into the holster, you sweep between the gun and your body to ensure no clothing is stuck in there, and conceal.

Poor procedure or lack of procedure IMHO accounts for a large majority of negligent discharges.


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