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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:52 pm 
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Thanks for the find, somebody also e-mailed it to me.

NOTE: You can also embed Liveleak videos here by just hitting the liveleak button above and putting the video url between the tags.

[liveleak]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=db0_1245629888[/liveleak]

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I can't believe this is real (read I hope that this is not real):

http://www.maniacworld.com/insane-photographer.html

Apologies if it has already made the rounds...


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Found this "explanation":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R3t0wuLDWQ


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Merged and moved the entire thread to Stupid Gun Stuff. This one definitely qualifies.

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Somebody needs to teach this guy The First Rule of Holes.


You mean the one that states you are normally born with the correct number of them, and adding to that number via high-speed metal objects may negatively impact your health?

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Well that's a good one too, but I meant that if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

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Hey Mom! Went to the range today- missed the target but I shot a really stupid photographer. :D

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Hey Mom! Went to the range today- missed the target but I shot a really stupid photographer. :D
Can you give me a hand hanging him in the garage and field dressing him?

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I watched the "rebuttal" video again. Two things struck me in a particular fashion.

First, shooting at a range with a person in the target area is much safer than not having a battery in my home smoke alarm. Second, the "expert" noted that when the participants in this shoot were asked if they were more aware of their front sights they all said that having a human in the target area made them more aware of their front sights.

The second point, to me, would be akin to saying that you would undoubtedly drive in a safer manner if you tied one of your children to your front bumper while driving to work.

This "expert" certainly has no second thoughts about digging even faster when he realizes he is in a hole.


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The second point, to me, would be akin to saying that you would undoubtedly drive in a safer manner if you tied one of your children to your front bumper while driving to work.


But I'll bet they wouldn't complain about having soggy cereal again for a very, very long time. Image


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Interview with the downrange cameraman (mp3 download)

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First, shooting at a range with a person in the target area is much safer than not having a battery in my home smoke alarm.

It's certainly much safer for you. I'm not so sure about for him.


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Jeez, somebody should invent some sort of camera stand, maybe with 3 legs or something, so that photographers could stop risking their lives for up close video of stuff like this. Maybe I'll call the patent office in the morning.

Wow... :shock:


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If what this guy said had merit, SWAT teams would practice with live hostages and cardboard BG's.


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If what this guy said had merit, SWAT teams would practice with live hostages and cardboard BG's.


They do in Israel... :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Traveler wrote:
I watched the "rebuttal" video again. Two things struck me in a particular fashion.

First, shooting at a range with a person in the target area is much safer than not having a battery in my home smoke alarm. Second, the "expert" noted that when the participants in this shoot were asked if they were more aware of their front sights they all said that having a human in the target area made them more aware of their front sights.

The second point, to me, would be akin to saying that you would undoubtedly drive in a safer manner if you tied one of your children to your front bumper while driving to work.

This "expert" certainly has no second thoughts about digging even faster when he realizes he is in a hole.


Regarding the second point...

You think you would not drive safer in that situation? Sure you would.

I can understand where the video guy is coming from on that one. Do I agree completely? Not exactly. But this is similar to the 'never, ever, ever' argument made about drinking and driving. Most people say "If you've had any alcohol you are a considerably worse driver than a sober person". To that I say BS. I think some people are FAR more aware of their surroundings, drive closer to the speed limit, and obey the letter of every traffic law after they've had a couple drinks than they do when they are stone sober. Sure, there is some line to be crossed when the alcohol consumption hits a point and wins out and they just get sloppy, but for that 1-3 drink point where they are still acting 'normal' I'd say they drive better as long as they are concerned about their driving and trying to be careful. This isn't everybody who drinks, mind you. Just some. Look at it this way: If we assume they are 100% capable when sober but they drive a little aggressively and speed a bit (10 over, like most everyone else), they are probably only driving at 75% of their true capability. They are probably distracted, not using their signals all the time, in a rush, etc. On the other hand, if they have a little alcohol which reduces their functioning down to 90% of their capability AND they are focused on driving as carefully as they can, they are driving at 90%. 90% beats 75%. These are just random numbers to get a point across. I'm sure many folks will rip me apart for this viewpoint, but whatever. I'll stand by my idea that a couple drinks is NOT going to unequivocally make you a worse driver in real world conditions.

So how does this relate to the video?? I think the guy might have a point that those folks firing with a person standing somewhere in front of the firing line ARE going to be more careful than they normally would. It is still more risky for that person to be in front of the line than behind it, for sure, but it isn't necessarily a huge risk that automatically will lead to carnage. Do it right and the risk is low. Should everyone try it? No, in general they shouldn't. But don't make it into a 'never, ever, ever' situation.

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