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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:53 pm 
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Not really "gun" related, but it does involve a weapon:

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Wisc. man wields sword after mistaking porn sounds for rape

OCONOMOWOC, Wis. (AP) - A man says he broke into an apartment with a cavalry sword because he thought he heard a woman being raped, but the sound actually was from a pornographic movie his upstairs neighbor was watching.

"Now I feel stupid," said James Van Iveren, who has been charged in the case. "This really is nothing, nothing but a mistake."

According to a criminal complaint, the neighbor told police that Van Iveren pounded on the door and kicked it open without warning Feb. 12, damaging the frame and lock.

"Where is she?" Van Iveren demanded, thrusting the sword at the neighbor, the complaint said. "Where is she?"

The neighbor told police Van Iveren became increasingly aggressive as he repeated the question, insisting that he had heard a woman being raped. The complaint said that, with the sword pointed at him, the neighbor led Van Iveren throughout the apartment, opening closet doors to prove he was alone.

The neighbor later played for police the part of the DVD he believed Van Iveren heard downstairs.

Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, was charged with criminal trespass, criminal damage and disorderly conduct, all while using a dangerous weapon, and is due in court March 5. Together, the misdemeanor counts carry a maximum sentence of 33 months in jail.

Van Iveren said Tuesday that he heard a woman "screaming for help," grabbed the sword, bounded up the stairs, kicked in the apartment door and confronted the man who lived there.

"I intended to hold it behind my back and knock. But I froze and instead, what happened happened," he told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Contesting his neighbor's account, Van Iveren said he didn't look anywhere in the apartment except the front room, and that he never threatened the neighbor with the sword.

"I had the sword extended. But that was all," he said.

Van Iveren, who lives with his mother in the downstairs apartment, said he did not call police when he heard the noises because he does not have a telephone. He said he barely knew the upstairs tenant.

Police seized Van Iveren's sword, which he said was a family heirloom.


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Did he carve a Z on the guys chest? :wink:


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Well, maybe he'll invest in a fone once he gets outta the big house!


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He should have just called 911 and hid in a closet with his keys. That's if keys are legal in WI?

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Calling the police is the first and most important step he missed. :roll: :roll:

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Srigs wrote:
Calling the police is the first and most important step he missed. :roll: :roll:

this is very very ture but at least he did not just igonore it he acted on his gut and if it really was a rape he would have made a difference but it was not and he got owned for it

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Reminds me of a story...
I had a female tenant who fom time to time would bring home dates for some enthusiastic and very vocal fornication. It always sounded unerving, like she was getting the hell beat out of her. One warm evening her windows were open and the retired LEO next door surmised she was having a baby and dutifully called 911 requesting officers and EMTs... :roll:

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J. R. wrote:
Reminds me of a story...
I had a female tenant who fom time to time would bring home dates for some enthusiastic and very vocal fornication. It always sounded unerving, like she was getting the hell beat out of her. One warm evening her windows were open and the retired LEO next door surmised she was having a baby and dutifully called 911 requesting officers and EMTs... :roll:


I spit coffee over my keyboard at that one....

Are you sure he didn't intentionally surmise incorrectly?


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Are you sure he didn't intentionally surmise incorrectly?
He was just 9 months too early methinks.

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I don't know what the retired LEO was thinking, he was what I call one of the "old school" good guys. Back in the day when they lived AND served in the same neighborhood. I know for myself and others who were witness to the "noises" that it didn't sound like fun. It was (creepy) hard to listen to that and resist the urge to not go and "save" her. If I didn't know what was happening I quite possibly would have been kicking doors and kicking a55.

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39 years old and living with his Mum. I think the Psych's gonna come back with repressed sexual urges on this one. :roll: :wink:


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One story has the tape ending at 2:30am according to the man whose door was kicked in. The kicking took place at 11:30am ... there's a bit of a discrepancy there...


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It'll be fascinating to see this one wind it's way through the system. The fella offers a viable--if flawed--defense for his actions.

There are some lessons to take from this. The first being: have a solid lock/door combo. The second: Have little shame and keep the porn truned down. :oops:

It's funny in a too weird to be made up sorta way.

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And if your going to defend someone with a weapon, be DAMNED sure the person needs to be defended!!

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