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Author:  wamps [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:01 pm ]
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We'll let the "facts" speak for themselves when the BAC is released. Hopefully an official Complaint will be forthcoming that contains the "facts" of the case albeit with an LE bias.
IF the BAC is below limit the guy has a fairly good chance (oops, that's my opinion-don't know if it's safe to express that anymore :oops: ). Still doesn't change my opinion on booze and guns, even if he comes in below the limit. If you took out the booze factor I'd support him-he took charge and stood up for the right reasons. Sounds like a good guy! I wish more people would do that-we need 'em-just leave out the booze. 'Pears I'm in the minority here but that's ok...
Author:  Andrew Rothman [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:17 pm ]
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wamps wrote:
oops, that's my opinion-don't know if it's safe to express that anymore :oops:


Plbbbbt. ;)
Author:  JEM [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:40 am ]
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Edited. Already covered.
Author:  GregN [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:29 am ]
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wamps wrote:
We'll let the "facts" speak for themselves when the BAC is released. Hopefully an official Complaint will be forthcoming that contains the "facts" of the case albeit with an LE bias.
IF the BAC is below limit the guy has a fairly good chance (oops, that's my opinion-don't know if it's safe to express that anymore :oops: ). Still doesn't change my opinion on booze and guns, even if he comes in below the limit. If you took out the booze factor I'd support him-he took charge and stood up for the right reasons. Sounds like a good guy! I wish more people would do that-we need 'em-just leave out the booze. 'Pears I'm in the minority here but that's ok...


+1
Author:  wamps [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:49 am ]
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Andrew Rothman wrote:
wamps wrote:
oops, that's my opinion-don't know if it's safe to express that anymore :oops:


Plbbbbt. ;)


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't have the slightest idea what "Plbbbbt" means... :shock:
Author:  Lady Glock [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:55 am ]
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wamps wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
wamps wrote:
oops, that's my opinion-don't know if it's safe to express that anymore :oops:


Plbbbbt. ;)


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't have the slightest idea what "Plbbbbt" means... :shock:
I believe (I could be wrong) that it is a "raspberry". *sticking the tongue out and blowing, making a farting sound* Of course, it's followed by a wink. All combined could mean something along the lines of "we're all friends here"
Author:  wamps [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:08 pm ]
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Lady Glock wrote:
wamps wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
wamps wrote:
oops, that's my opinion-don't know if it's safe to express that anymore :oops:


Plbbbbt. ;)


Pardon my ignorance, but I don't have the slightest idea what "Plbbbbt" means... :shock:
I believe (I could be wrong) that it is a "raspberry". *sticking the tongue out and blowing, making a farting sound* Of course, it's followed by a wink. All combined could mean something along the lines of "we're all friends here"


Thanks for enlightening me Lady Glock :) Then I'll take it as a friendly gesture!
Author:  SultanOfBrunei [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:25 pm ]
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Lady Glock wrote:
All combined could mean something along the lines of "we're all friends here"

You're doing it wrong.

"plbbbbbbt" is the international phrase for challenging someone to a duel. Wamps, I believe you get weapon choice.
Author:  plblark [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:27 pm ]
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and conditions. I believe L. Niel Smith recommends .44 Mag hunting revolvers at 100 yards.
Author:  wamps [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:52 pm ]
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SultanOfBrunei wrote:
Lady Glock wrote:
All combined could mean something along the lines of "we're all friends here"

You're doing it wrong.

"plbbbbbbt" is the international phrase for challenging someone to a duel. Wamps, I believe you get weapon choice.


Pretty funny! I think I'll take a rifle-but no beer allowed!! :lol:
Author:  Suited [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:57 pm ]
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Here is the link to the complaint on the Post-Bulletin website.
http://www.postbulletin.com/imagegallery/gallery/PDF/Timothy_Jay_Rose_complaint.pdf
Author:  SultanOfBrunei [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:08 pm ]
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Would the BAC normally be included in the complaint if it was an issue?

From reading the police report it seems, to me, that what he did was reasonable. However, in his shoes I would have just been a good witness. If the car was close to me and mine, and I thought he was going to drive at/over us I think I would have done something similar. Maybe. If there were no other options.

But then again, I don't know the whole story here. Maybe his wife/kids couldn't run very well eliminating retreat as a viable option.
Author:  wamps [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:15 pm ]
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Suited, thanks for the posting.
Wonder if they even did a BAC test?? Maybe considered secondary to the main charge? Even so, a definitive BAC would've been good to have for one side or the other.
Author:  plblark [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:28 pm ]
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since 624.7142 covers carrying while under chemical or alcohol influence
https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin ... m=624.7142
and
624.7143 covers mandatory chemical testing
https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin ... m=624.7143

I'm surprised they didn't immediately know his BAC. OTOH, maybe they did and did not include it in the complaint because it would weaken their case.
Author:  joelr [ Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:32 pm ]
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plblark wrote:
I'm surprised they didn't immediately know his BAC. OTOH, maybe they did and did not include it in the complaint because it would weaken their case.
That's the way to bet. The likelihood -- by no means a certainty, but close -- is that if they had any evidence that he was guilty of CWI, they would have charged him with that.
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