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| Author: | J. R. [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Three Rivers Park District (TRPD) |
If I understand correctly, "they" cannot restrict anyway. Nice to see they are aware of that, or agree with, as stated in their policy. Hopefully this will avoid confusion during encounters with Three Rivers Park District (rapidly expanding) police department. Quote: Persons who possess a valid Minnesota permit, or a valid permit from another state which is recognized in Minnesota; may carry, hold, keep, store, or possess a pistol within the Park District lands, facilities, and buildings to the extent permitted by Minnesota law. Employees or volunteers when acting in the course and scope of their employment or duties are prohibited from carrying, holding, keeping, storing, or possessing a pistol within Park District lands, facilities, and buildings. |
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| Author: | Lenny7 [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Three Rivers Park District (TRPD) |
I'll certainly agree that it's nice to see the recognition of the carry permit, but to put in their rules and regulations that permit holders can carry at the park makes as much sense as saying we can chew gum at the park. Their statement is also redundant...telling us that we can do something to the extent that it's legal. The sentence could be reduced to: "Persons may carry, hold, keep, store, or possess a pistol to the extent permitted by Minnesota law" and it would say the same thing. Too bad about their employees and volunteers. That would prevent me from ever volunteering there. I guess I'm nitpicking here and I should be glad that there's something in black & white in the event that the issue comes up with the TRPD while I'm there. |
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| Author: | J. R. [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:35 am ] |
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I agree Lenny, A simple "state trumps district" statement should be enough to get the dogs off your heels. +1 as well on the coment about volunteers. I think there are a few volunteer organizations that have now reverted to a don't ask, don't tell policy after a previous "No guns" policy found them short of volunteers. |
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| Author: | JimC [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:37 am ] |
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Can their police dept demand to see your permit, like any city officer could? Do they have the same power? |
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| Author: | MNXD9 [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Three Rivers Park District (TRPD) |
J. R. wrote: If I understand correctly, "they" cannot restrict anyway. Nice to see they are aware of that, or agree with, as stated in their policy. Hopefully this will avoid confusion during encounters with Three Rivers Park District (rapidly expanding) police department. Quote: Persons who possess a valid Minnesota permit, or a valid permit from another state which is recognized in Minnesota; may carry, hold, keep, store, or possess a pistol within the Park District lands, facilities, and buildings to the extent permitted by Minnesota law. Employees or volunteers when acting in the course and scope of their employment or duties are prohibited from carrying, holding, keeping, storing, or possessing a pistol within Park District lands, facilities, and buildings. I'm still not sure the bold text I highlighted it 100% correct........ |
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| Author: | Lenny7 [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:40 am ] |
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JimC wrote: Can their police dept demand to see your permit, like any city officer could? Do they have the same power? Yes, they are sworn, licensed peace officers |
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| Author: | plblark [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:20 am ] |
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Employees is pretty straight forward. State law specifically allows employers to set that limit as a term of employment. |
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| Author: | mnglocker [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:41 am ] |
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Lenny7 wrote: JimC wrote: Can their police dept demand to see your permit, like any city officer could? Do they have the same power? Yes, they are sworn, licensed peace officers I've even sat in on there last POST shooting certs.  Nice bunch of folks.
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| Author: | Scott Hughes [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:29 pm ] |
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Quote: Employees or volunteers when acting in the course and scope of their employment or duties are prohibited from carrying, holding, keeping, storing, or possessing a pistol within Park District lands, facilities, and buildings. I wonder what punative action they could take against a volunteer 
A cut in pay, or perhaps a severe tongue lashing. 
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| Author: | Lenny7 [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:32 pm ] |
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Scott Hughes wrote: I wonder what punative action they could take against a volunteer A cut in pay, or perhaps a severe tongue lashing. Don't forget the stern look! |
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| Author: | Andrew Rothman [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Three Rivers Park District (TRPD) |
MNXD9 wrote: Quote: Persons who possess a valid Minnesota permit, or a valid permit from another state which is recognized in Minnesota; may carry, hold, keep, store, or possess a pistol within the Park District lands, facilities, and buildings to the extent permitted by Minnesota law. Employees or volunteers when acting in the course and scope of their employment or duties are prohibited from carrying, holding, keeping, storing, or possessing a pistol within Park District lands, facilities, and buildings. It's not. They are not allowed to ban ANYONE from having a gun stored in the car. |
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| Author: | JimC [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:30 pm ] |
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How about Public safety officers? Lenny7 wrote: JimC wrote: Can their police dept demand to see your permit, like any city officer could? Do they have the same power? Yes, they are sworn, licensed peace officers |
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| Author: | MNXD9 [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Three Rivers Park District (TRPD) |
Andrew Rothman wrote: MNXD9 wrote: Quote: Persons who possess a valid Minnesota permit, or a valid permit from another state which is recognized in Minnesota; may carry, hold, keep, store, or possess a pistol within the Park District lands, facilities, and buildings to the extent permitted by Minnesota law. Employees or volunteers when acting in the course and scope of their employment or duties are prohibited from carrying, holding, keeping, storing, or possessing a pistol within Park District lands, facilities, and buildings. It's not. They are not allowed to ban ANYONE from having a gun stored in the car. I should've been more clear in my post, but Andew seemed to clairify my point. 
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| Author: | AGoodDay [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:59 am ] |
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JimC wrote: How about Public safety officers? Nope. |
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