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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:56 pm 
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A poster from Minnesota posted this in THR.us:
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Gang members with badges protecting their own?
Absolutely uncalled for

Best reason I can come up with. I did put a question mark at the end hoping for a better answer. But based on the info avail. it seems likely that this mentality DOES exist in this case. Also, had you or I acted in this manner, we would be in jail. After all, a slip and fall COULD kill you but do you shoot the mop boy? Getting hit with a bottle DOES NOT justify a shooting. Being beaten unconscious doesn't even classify as a threat to your life. At least not in my state.....
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Your understanding of the law regarding self-defense appears to be a bit faulty.

Perhaps. That's just what we were taught in my cc class.


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So when does a person decide that they are just being beaten unconscious and not beaten to death ?

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IIRC the MN standard is that you must be in reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm.

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I know...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm 
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Good shooting. A beer bottle IS a dangerous weapon.

It's the POTENTIAL for harm sufficient to cause great bodily harm or death that authorizes the victim to respond with sufficient force to "neutralize" -- great police terminology -- (i.e., completely terminate) the threat. Once their attack crosses the line, you can use all the force necessary to permanently end the threat. You don't have to pussy foot around in the "face of an upturned knife" (per some famous US Supreme Court Justice) or and other weapon CAPABLE of causing GBH or death once the attack is imminent.

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