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 The Permit Card 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:25 am 
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While I wait for my new permit to be issued, I have looked at my existing one very closely.

Some years ago I laminated my card because some of the data on it was wearing off, namely the expiration date and the reference number. The card did not seem to wear well. It certainly does not have the wear resistance of a state-issued driver's license, for example.

To the point: I noticed in the permit law https://www.revisor.mn.gov/data/revisor/statutes/2005/624/714.html an interesting paragraph:

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(c) Upon issuing a permit to carry, the sheriff must
provide a laminated permit card to the applicant by first class
mail unless personal delivery has been made. Within five
business days, the sheriff must submit the information specified
in subdivision 7, paragraph (a), to the commissioner for
inclusion solely in the database required under subdivision 15,
paragraph (a). The sheriff must transmit the information in a
manner and format prescribed by the commissioner.


Laminated, to me, means that the actual data printed on the card is covered with a clear material to ensure the data does not rub off with normal wear and tear in a wallet or other holding device.

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laminated (ˈlæmɪˌneɪtɪd)
— adj
1. composed of thin sheets (of plastic, wood, etc) superimposed and bonded together by synthetic resins, usually under heat and pressure
2. covered with a thin protective layer of plastic or synthetic resin
3. another word for laminate


Could it be that a sheriff who provides an unlaminated card is violating the carry law? :shock:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:06 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:16 am 
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Decent plastic card printers apply a thin laminate over the ink/toner. Either your sheriff went cheap, or you're tougher on your card than the average bear...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:06 am 
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I had the same problem with my original permit issued by Ramsey County. My new one from Washington County is faring much better.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:58 pm 
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My card from McLeod County is laminated in a heavier plastic, to the point is is rather thick for my wallet.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:46 am 
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Traveler wrote:
While I wait for my new permit to be issued, I have looked at my existing one very closely.

Some years ago I laminated my card because some of the data on it was wearing off, namely the expiration date and the reference number. The card did not seem to wear well. It certainly does not have the wear resistance of a state-issued driver's license, for example.

To the point: I noticed in the permit law https://www.revisor.mn.gov/data/revisor/statutes/2005/624/714.html an interesting paragraph:

Quote:
(c) Upon issuing a permit to carry, the sheriff must
provide a laminated permit card to the applicant by first class
mail unless personal delivery has been made. Within five
business days, the sheriff must submit the information specified
in subdivision 7, paragraph (a), to the commissioner for
inclusion solely in the database required under subdivision 15,
paragraph (a). The sheriff must transmit the information in a
manner and format prescribed by the commissioner.


Laminated, to me, means that the actual data printed on the card is covered with a clear material to ensure the data does not rub off with normal wear and tear in a wallet or other holding device.

Quote:
World English Dictionary
laminated (ˈlæmɪˌneɪtɪd)
— adj
1. composed of thin sheets (of plastic, wood, etc) superimposed and bonded together by synthetic resins, usually under heat and pressure
2. covered with a thin protective layer of plastic or synthetic resin
3. another word for laminate


Could it be that a sheriff who provides an unlaminated card is violating the carry law? :shock:
Sheriff Fletcher of Ramsey County violating the law? Heaven forfend!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:51 am 
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