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gooseman
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Post subject: 357 magnum question Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:27 pm |
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Does anyone know if i can shoot a 357 rifle round through my hand gun. winchester has one that goes about 1800fps out of the barrel is that safe to shoot out of a hand gun or is that rifle only thanks
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:51 pm |
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I'm not aware of any factory loaded "rifle-only" 357 mag rounds.
What kind of gun do you have?
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Ramoel
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:32 pm |
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Plus 1 on what Dean said. Any factory .357 should be safe to shoot in a revolver chambered for .357. I'm not aware of any rifle only .357 loads although I remember seeing some "rifle" .44 magnum loads quite a few years ago. You could also use them in a .44 revolver, they were just loaded with a slower burning powder for the longer barrel.
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gooseman
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:29 pm |
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i Have a S&W 28 4" barrel. Does that sound like to much powder 1800 fps? I think i am going to e-mail winchester about it and see what they have to say. I am just worried about the pressure being to great. Thanks for the input.
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:21 pm |
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gooseman wrote: Does that sound like to much powder 1800 fps?
You are not going to get 1800 fps out of your 4" handgun, those numbers are from 16" to 22" barrel.
That ammo will be just fine in your handgun, you just won't get the same velocity.
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gooseman
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:43 pm |
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Will i get less velocity is that what you are saying??
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1911fan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:28 pm |
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its the same load, just one tested in a short barrel, and one in a longer barrel.
The revolver/cylinder gap and the longer rifle barrel are the reason for the difference in posted FPS .
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gooseman
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:26 am |
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Ok i suppose the pressure escape is harder on velocity than the friction of the longer barrel.
Thanks guys
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:37 am |
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The friction from the longer barrel is negligible. You have to get a barrel longer than 30" or so for friction to take effect.
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Pat Cannon
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:16 am |
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gooseman wrote: Ok i suppose the pressure escape is harder on velocity than the friction of the longer barrel. Thanks guys
The lower muzzle velocity out of the revolver has much more to do with the shorter barrel than with the cylinder gap. If you were shooting the .357 out of a single-shot pistol with the same 4" barrel length but no gap, it' would be a little faster, but nothing close the velocity you get from a 16" carbine.
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gooseman
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:08 pm |
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Okay so i am still not quite grasping the science behind the less muzzle velocity out of a shorter barrel can some one explain the mechanics behind this. Is it because the round is more protected and can get up to full potential inside the barrel before it is exposed to the environment or something to that effect. thanks
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:43 pm |
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gooseman
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:04 pm |
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ok i get it now. Now i know and knowing is half the battle thanks
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