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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:10 am 
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With the crash of the hardware where ellegon.com used to live, my classes and my ellegon.com website pretty much dropped out of Google entirely.

That's changed.

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Good job being #1 and #2 with the series of key words! :D

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Srigs wrote:
Good job being #1 and #2 with the series of key words! :D
Well, I'm certainly pleased. Particularly since I've given out all my "secrets" of improving one's google ranking to anybody who has asked. (There's not a lot of secrets. None isn't a lot, is it?)

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Good job being #1 and #2 with the series of key words! :D
Well, I'm certainly pleased. Particularly since I've given out all my "secrets" of improving one's google ranking to anybody who has asked. (There's not a lot of secrets. None isn't a lot, is it?)


Keep up the good work on the site!

I know getting a good google rating can be a challenge and I have mastered a time or two with different sites I help manage. :)

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Considering Google's left-leaning anti-gun stance how do you get to come up in a search at all?

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Considering Google's left-leaning anti-gun stance how do you get to come up in a search at all?
Work, and luck. Ellegon.com already had a google ranking before 2003, when it was just my writing website, and I made the decision to do the carry permit and political advocacy stuff off of that, rather than start a new website. Lucky choice, as that turned out.

That helped.

And it worked for quite a while, until the server where ellegon.com used to live up and died a couple of months ago. Pretty quickly, I dropped entirely off of Google -- the bots didn't like the site being gone, quite reasonably.

And rather than just moving all of the gun stuff to Twincitiescarry.com, when I moved stuff to Dreamhost (with a LOT of help from DDB), I also moved the ellegon.com domain, so my present Google ranking appears to be influenced by my pre-crash Google ranking.

Beyond that, Google's algorithms appear to be sensitive to, among other things:

Text. They like a lot of text; I've done a fair number of essays, and updated them, sometimes pretty frequently.

Headers. Descriptive headers seem to help a lot.

Meta-tags. Useful, but easy to get yourself in trouble for overdoing. I try to put in as many legitimate ones as I can, and make sure to put in nothing that's intended to be bot-bait. (No "Sex, hot hobbit-on-hobbit action," etc.)

Links. Google likes links; I link to some other sites that I think are relevant (not always good; I link to Rebecca Thoman's website, after all) and a fair number of people link back to me.

I don't guarantee that any or all of that will work, but it seems to have worked for me -- combined, as I said, with a fair amount of luck.

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Last helpful suggestion is Key Words listing that is part of html that does not show on a normal page. Otherwise your approach is very good. Google likes sites that link to you (increases your importance factor) and ellegon.com is linked to by tons of sites so that helps. Now twincitiescarry.com has a link from ellegon so it benefits from it also so this is what google likes and has helped ellegon.com come back quick due to the number of links from other sites.

Good job and keep linking and posting on other forums helps also! I have posted on a couple already... :D

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Absolutely. I'm planning on upping the number of links from ellegon.com -- to, among others, certified training organizations' websites.

Win-win. I like that.

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