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McCain, posing as a moderate, had no chance.

Actually, you can give Bush/Cheney the credit or blame for Obama's election. We couldn't have elected a superliberal without them. :evil:


Nah. The socialists and a compliant media painted McCain, who is a moderate, as "McSame," and the public bought it.

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Just to get back on topic...

The threat was made in February, the search warrant was served in March. A lot of time to do the proper background.

MOM made no mention of the proposed target. Why is that? Is it somewhere that her little sixteen year old innocent has a connection to?

Enquiring minds....

I don't believe this belongs in Isolated Incidents. There's no evidence of wrongdoing by law enforcement. There is a supportive mom here though.

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Just to get back on topic...

The threat was made in February, the search warrant was served in March. A lot of time to do the proper background.

MOM made no mention of the proposed target. Why is that? Is it somewhere that her little sixteen year old innocent has a connection to?

Enquiring minds....

I don't believe this belongs in Isolated Incidents. There's no evidence of wrongdoing by law enforcement. There is a supportive mom here though.


(Emphasis mine) - YES, there is. They came after this kid under the Patriot Act. At this point, the kid has NO rights. That's the law that Guantanamo Bay's detentions are considered 'legal.' (By the now-previous administration, anyway)

Why not just go after him for 'making terroristic threats'?

<Horrible-internet-analogy>Pull a guy over for speeding 60 in a 55, and charge him with 2,000 counts of "attempted murder" because he drove by a shopping mall? Yeah, a little over the top.</Horrible-internet-analogy>


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Dick Unger wrote:
McCain, posing as a moderate, had no chance.

Actually, you can give Bush/Cheney the credit or blame for Obama's election. We couldn't have elected a superliberal without them. :evil:


Nah. The socialists and a compliant media painted McCain, who is a moderate, as "McSame," and the public bought it.


That's what I said. He WAS "McSame". About half the people not only wanted Bush out, they wanted anyone who ever befriended Bush out as well. There was really no way a fellow Republican could reasonably position himself as more "change" than Obama.

The ironic thing that made Obama so uniquely qualified as a winning candidate is that he had no previous record of doing anything substantive, so anything he said could be taken at face value. The "change" I see now is mostly rhetoric. Obama has really not changed anything. On the war and the economy, he did the same thing Bush would have done. :roll:

When we vote, we have to make imperfect decisions, I guess. I wish I could find someone to vote FOR. Obama will appoint a different set of folks than the Republican would have appointed. Eventually that will be the "change", for better or worse. But the real policy won't really change much.

But without Bush, we would not have Obama. Maybe some other Dem, but not him, I don't think. We're bouncing back and forth with extremist rehtoric, right and left, but there are no changes.


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We're bouncing back and forth with extremist rehtoric, right and left, but there are no changes.


And we're apparently too stupid to pick a guy in the middle, like McCain.

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I wish I could find someone to vote FOR.


I used to wish that too. Then about three years ago, I found out about a guy named Ron Paul, and was blown away. I was a supporter of his from the minute I heard him, have been up to this day, and he's never let me down. Not even once! On the contrary, I am just continually more impressed as time goes on. He's the real deal. 8)

You want change? That was the way to get it. Everything else was just fluff, window dressing, and deception. It's a shame America didn't see what kind of an opportunity they had last year... there may not be another like it... :cry:

As a side note, McSame and O-bomber would (and will) be happy to use any and all power they inherit, no matter which "Bush-du-jour" happened to originally usurp it for the office. Neither of those clowns ever gave a lick about the US Constitution, with the exception of it being able to use it as a popular rally cry for the masses. (Who, incidentally, seem to find that document favorable for some reason, even though the majority of them have no idea what it says.)

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Bloggers, TV, Go Nuts Over Misleading ‘Patriot Act’ Arrest Claim
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The boy’s mother, Annette Lundeby, has even acknowledged in interviews that her son has been formally charged, has a court-appointed attorney, and has already made appearances in front of a judge. No military tribunals here. On Alex Jones, Lundeby seemed to more-or-less admit that the USA PATRIOT connection was something she dreamed up on her own.


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Even if it is a hoax the story did bring out discussion on the issues of Freedom and Liberty. That can't be all bad.

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Got suckered in on that one.

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It happens...

Doesn't change the overall sentiment about the (un)Patriot(ic) Act.


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We're bouncing back and forth with extremist rehtoric, right and left, but there are no changes.


And we're apparently too stupid to pick a guy in the middle, like McCain.


Depends upon your view of where "the middle" is. McCain is a RINO.

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Andrew Rothman wrote:
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We're bouncing back and forth with extremist rehtoric, right and left, but there are no changes.


And we're apparently too stupid to pick a guy in the middle, like McCain.


Depends upon your view of where "the middle" is. McCain is a RINO.

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Funny, I'd say that about Bush.

Republican = Goldwater

Anybody outside of that arena is a RINO to me.


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gman1868 wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
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We're bouncing back and forth with extremist rehtoric, right and left, but there are no changes.


And we're apparently too stupid to pick a guy in the middle, like McCain.


Depends upon your view of where "the middle" is. McCain is a RINO.

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Funny, I'd say that about Bush.

Republican = Goldwater

Anybody outside of that arena is a RINO to me.


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Compassionate Conservative? Please...

How about Constitutional Conservative.

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