Index  •  FAQ  •  Search  

It is currently Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:58 pm

This is a static archive the Twin Cities Carry forum, maintained as a public service by the current forum of record, The Minnesota Carry Forum.

All times are UTC - 6 hours




Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 14 posts ] 
 The Militarization of our Local Police 
Author Message
 Post subject: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:17 am 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:54 am
Posts: 5270
Location: Minneapolis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k5y3fBH9Og

_________________
I am defending myself... in favor of that!


Offline
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:43 am 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:49 am
Posts: 687
Location: South Minneapolis (Nokomis East)
Well THAT was disturbing.

_________________
I smoke. Thanks for holding your breath.

"Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life." ~ unknown

Never been tazered. (yet).


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:23 am 
Senior Member

Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:52 pm
Posts: 211
Location: Greenfield, MN
While I'm not a big fan of them stepping on my civil rights. I do think this change in many cases is due to the scum they are dealing with and the associated increase in the level of risk when the cops have to deal with them.

In the 50's you did not see alot of urban youth carrying semi automatic weapons.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:27 am 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:40 pm
Posts: 2264
Location: Eden Prairie
mmcnx2 wrote:
While I'm not a big fan of them stepping on my civil rights. I do think this change in many cases is due to the scum they are dealing with and the associated increase in the level of risk when the cops have to deal with them.

In the 50's you did not see alot of urban youth carrying semi automatic weapons.


In the 50's you didn't see alot of ANYBODY carrying semiautos outside the military. Revolvers ruled the roost.

-Mark


Offline
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:12 pm 
Senior Member

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:55 am
Posts: 151
I don't have a problem with police forces having military style equipment such as armor, weapons, and high-tech crowd control devices. There are many scenarios in this ever-more-crowded nation where bad things could happen that require those tools - like riots. I'm not in favor of the 'police state' activities though. Unreasonable searches, checkpoints, violations of civil rights, etc. Those things are disturbing.

As long as the police are enforcing legitimate laws in a legal manner give them the tools to do it.

BB


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:52 pm 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:52 pm
Posts: 700
Location: Northeast Minneapolis
BigBlue wrote:
I don't have a problem with police forces having military style equipment such as armor, weapons, and high-tech crowd control devices. There are many scenarios in this ever-more-crowded nation where bad things could happen that require those tools - like riots.
BB
Having tools is not a problem in itself. The frequency with which these tools are being used in situations where they are not appropriate is.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:50 pm 
Senior Member

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:55 am
Posts: 151
White Horseradish wrote:
BigBlue wrote:
I don't have a problem with police forces having military style equipment such as armor, weapons, and high-tech crowd control devices. There are many scenarios in this ever-more-crowded nation where bad things could happen that require those tools - like riots.
BB
Having tools is not a problem in itself. The frequency with which these tools are being used in situations where they are not appropriate is.


Definitely. That's right in line with what I was saying.

BB


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:18 pm 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:28 pm
Posts: 2362
Location: Uptown Minneapolis
And exactly how many such situations are faced by small town and small suburbs? Yet, many of them have SWAT teams and riot gear. Waste of money, and potentially deleterious to our civil rights

_________________
"The right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible." - Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey, 1960

"Man has the right to deal with his oppressors by devouring their palpitating hearts." - Jean-Paul Marat


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:20 pm 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:24 am
Posts: 6767
Location: Twin Cities
The problem with exciting tools is that their owners feel the need to use them.

_________________
* NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:58 pm 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:19 am
Posts: 810
Location: Northern MN
Andrew Rothman wrote:
The problem with exciting tools is that their owners feel the need to use them.



I have yet to use my AR on a regular traffic stop. :lol:

_________________
Proud, Service Oriented, Rural LEO, or "BADGED COWBOY"
Certified MN Carry Permit Instructor


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:33 am 
Raving Moderate
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:46 pm
Posts: 1292
Location: Minneapolis
tman065 wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
The problem with exciting tools is that their owners feel the need to use them.



I have yet to use my AR on a regular traffic stop. :lol:


Ah, but think of what fun it would be! The screams, the smelly pants, the paperwork... :shock: :wink:

_________________
I'm liberal, pro-choice, and I carry a gun. Any questions?

My real name is Jeremiah (go figure). ;)


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:16 pm 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:57 am
Posts: 818
Location: Apple Valley, MN
tman065 wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
The problem with exciting tools is that their owners feel the need to use them.



I have yet to use my AR on a regular traffic stop. :lol:


Well, then clearly that AR wasn't necessary. You're obviously wasting taxpayer dollars. :wink: :lol:

_________________
http://www.eckernet.com
My mind is like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:44 am 
Senior Member

Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:43 am
Posts: 371
Location: Anoka, MN
kecker wrote:
tman065 wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
The problem with exciting tools is that their owners feel the need to use them.



I have yet to use my AR on a regular traffic stop. :lol:


Well, then clearly that AR wasn't necessary. You're obviously wasting taxpayer dollars. :wink: :lol:


I'll take it off his hands, then! I'll take it as my "tax refund/stimulus package" rather than his dept keeps wasting gas money hauling it around. :-D


Offline
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Militarization of our Local Police
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:20 am 
Wise Elder
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:48 pm
Posts: 2782
Location: St. Paul
If you want to be informed/scared:
1. Watch your local PD's "SWAT" team practice (every town and village has one. Laural and Hardy in Blue.
2. Read this http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6476.

_________________
President of AACFI, GOCRA, CCRN, and A2A


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 14 posts ] 

This is a static archive the Twin Cities Carry forum, maintained as a public service by the current forum of record, The Minnesota Carry Forum.

All times are UTC - 6 hours


 Who is online 

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron


 
Index  |  FAQ  |  Search

phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group