Do LEO's have the same .04 BAC as 624.714?

Yes. 624.7142 refers to "a Person" who carries while intoxicated. It never uses the term "permit holder." That person may have their "authority" to carry under the provisions of a permit or otherwise [i.e., because they are a "peace officer"] suspended as a condition of release and it is revoked upon conviction.

But, the friendly prosecutors corruptly refuse to charge peace officers under 624.7142 and graciously allow their departments to handle it as an internal personnel matter. Usually a three-day suspension is imposed after a mild ass chewing.

So he fired the bullet straight up into the air.

So they landed where?? Edina? St. Cloud? Wisconsin?

And did what damage??

A .19 blood alcohol reading indicates a very experienced drinker. It's not unusual, unfortunately, but the coorelation with a level this high and a DUI alcohol evaluation of "require treatment for alcoholism" is close to 100%. Without a lot of drinking practice, people can't get their blood level this high, because they pass out or get very sick.

He probably had about 20 drinks, and that is probably casual drinking for him. If he was sick he probably would not have driven himself. And his passenger was willing to ride with him.

The ability to drink like this is something that will greatly affect the personality of the drinker whether he is drunk or sober.

Most police would simply not test or arrest a brother officer, things usually have to get pretty outrageous for them to get a DUI. I think one in eight Minnesota adults have a DUI record, but police officers hardly every get one.

This is not an "again". This is a follow-up of the earlier story.

I have yet to get from MPD any pictures of the officers/perps.

Yes it is "AGAIN". At least as I meant it.

THEY (officers on the MPD) do this at least once EVERY year (and have done so consistently since I started watching gun issues in 1983). The first drunk to shoot up the MOA (years ago) was a ... armed MPD officer.

I've never heard of a drunken Roseville officer shooting up the town. I do remember that in my nine years on the Roseville Police Civil Service Commission, every candidate we turned down wound up on the MPD. Those we thought were unsuitable for police work, Minneapolis grabbed.

That explains a lot.

One in eight??? Seriously???

Wow...I wouldn't have figured that high. Where did you hear that?

It is becoming higher. Take a look at what happens when someone gets a DUI. You will find that handing out DUIs makes a good deal of money in fines and mandatory classes.

One in EIGHT? That's 12.5%!
What happened to designated drivers? And what happens to drivers who get more than one DUI?

Okay, thanks. I didn't know if there possibly was a lower limit for LEO's by internal policy. Such as BAC for professional drivers can be lower than .08 in a company policy. It sounds like it may be more lax for the "professional" carry person in this case.

It occurs to me that if officers that shouldn't be employed as officers are able to apply (and fail) at places like Roseville, then apply (and succeed) at places like MPD, then the problem is likely most easily rectifiable at the state POST-level certifying.

Can something be done to toughen standards there? Could problem departments (like MPD) be required to recertify all their officers at a tougher standard? Could weed out quite a few bad apples...

Just a thought.

The FAA says .04% and 8 hrs for pilots and my company says .02%.

and a security company i moonlight for has a zero tolerance policy, ZERO. it's a bit funny in a way, this security company makes the MPD look like the little leagues....... i don't rightly understand.

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