Perspecitve of Privilege - Cop gets mad at being pulled over
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lance22
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Post subject: Perspecitve of Privilege - Cop gets mad at being pulled over Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:03 pm |
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Video Summary
(1) Undercover cop pulled over by patrol cops
(2) Undercover cop expects a wave-off, gets mad when doesn't get it
(3) Patrol cop calls for back-up as undercover grows more erratic
(4) Backup arrives, Patrol cops take down undercover cop.
LOL this guy looks like our "friend" in Robbinsdale.
http://www.break.com/index/state-troope ... r-cop.html
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ttousi
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:11 pm |
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Srigs
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:58 am |
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Wow what an idiot. He needs to be fired and hope he was.
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:29 am |
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Arrogant and thinks he is special.
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Sipowicz
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 am |
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This whole stop is FUBAR from the get go. First off the UC never should have left his car. It deteriorates from there, not because of how the trooper handled it, but because of how the UC handled it.
I'm of the opinion that the UC felt race had to do something with the level of intensity of the stop. The trooper was completely professional, and the UC was up in his face from the get go. I don't think race had anything to do with it based on the video, but the UC's mannerisms make me think he did.
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Binky .357
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:25 am |
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What I find disturbing is the number of people saying (in the comments) that the "officer" should have been given a free pass; that one cop shouldn't have written another cop a ticket.
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:30 am |
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Binky .357 wrote: What I find disturbing is the number of people saying (in the comments) that the "officer" should have been given a free pass; that one cop shouldn't have written another cop a ticket.
I agree.
Looks to me that the people making comments are assuming a lot, unless there is more video or facts of the stop someplace that I don't see, the UC thought himself special and shouldn't be ticketed if he broke the law, which I don't truly know if he did or not.
But why did the UC run, guilty of something? Regardless if the UC did break a traffic law or not, just see how far one of us would have gotten doing what the UC did after the traffic stop.
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Sipowicz
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:57 am |
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Binky .357 wrote: What I find disturbing is the number of people saying (in the comments) that the "officer" should have been given a free pass; that one cop shouldn't have written another cop a ticket.
Hear! Hear!
Many cops consider it a "professional courtesy" when the reality it is an ethical issue.
Troopers will write anybody, including their mom and grandmother.
I know a while back the Patrol LT for park was tagged in WI by a trooper. Old news, maybe 5 years or more.
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motoman
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:26 am |
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Why is he referred to as an UC cop? He was just off duty.
The cop who stopped him wasn't a tropper either.
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princewally
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:37 am |
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motoman wrote: Why is he referred to as an UC cop? He was just off duty.
Didn't you hear? UC was redefined to mean "on my way home for lunch."
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tman065
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:59 pm |
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For some reason, I'm remembering that he was not a licensed LEO, but rather a jail employee. I cannot confirm this after searching, however.
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EJSG19
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:22 pm |
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Is there anything that allows a LEO to speed while not having his lights/sirens running?
I can't count the number of times I see a law enforcement vehicle fly by me on the interstate or side streets, with no apparent urgency or emergency, and no lights are flashing or sirens making noise.
Maybe Long ago LEO or somebody can chime in and clarify whether this is an issue of "take advantage 'cause I can" or if there are situations where this is legal.
Makes little difference to me, just something that I wonder about every time I see it.
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princewally
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:30 pm |
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EJSG19 wrote: Is there anything that allows a LEO to speed while not having his lights/sirens running?
Nope. It's lights and sirens, or he's breaking the law.
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motoman
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:42 pm |
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princewally wrote: EJSG19 wrote: Is there anything that allows a LEO to speed while not having his lights/sirens running?
Nope. It's lights and sirens, or he's breaking the law.
Not exactly. Law Enforcement has the choice of a red light, or siren.
169.17 EMERGENCY VEHICLE.
The speed limitations set forth in sections 169.14 to 169.17 do not apply to an authorized
emergency vehicle responding to an emergency call. Drivers of all emergency vehicles shall
sound an audible signal by siren and display at least one lighted red light to the front, except that
law enforcement vehicles shall sound an audible signal by siren or display at least one lighted red
light to the front. This provision does not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle
from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of persons using the street, nor does it protect
the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the consequence of a reckless disregard of
the safety of others.
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Scott Hughes
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:47 pm |
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This is the story of Miami Police Maj. Aaron Campbell, Jr.; stopped by Cpl. Richard Mankewich of Orlando County Sheriff’s Dept. While OCSD claimed that the stop wasn’t a profiling stop for drugs, Maj. Cambell is black. I believe that the stop was absolutely a “driving while black” stop. Further I watched the story of these events recently on Court TV. I am absolutely of the opinion that Cpl. Mankewich’s actions (and the other responding sheriffs) caused the escalation of tension between the parties. And the deeper they got into the affair with Campbell the more they were looking to cover their asses with a ton of charges on him!
Many, many, people more than suspected that the OCSD was heavily profiling the main highways in the area as they are a main route for drug traffic, and they had been stopping what many thought was an inordinate number of black citizens.
FYI this all happened back in 1997.
Here is a link for the story from Court TV. http://www.courttv.com/archive/trials/c ... ecial.html
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