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QuiChenKane wrote:

In fact I never thought it was solid.

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Given the recent polls on the support for more gun laws, I can't see any politician touching that until after the 2010 elections.

Sietch wrote:

El Dorado

DeanC wrote:

Sietch wrote:

El Dorado

Exactly

Reminds me of the Grapes of Wrath: "I hear there's plenty o' work out Californee way..."

Shortages like these always lead to speculations about the mystical city of gold.

exdrinker wrote:

I work at Federal

exdrinker wrote:

I work at Federal and enter the warehouse on Fridays. I was in there last Friday and there were many empty shelves. Federal is very active with Lean Manufacturing techniques and storing up finished product is a no-no. We have trouble getting enough brass etc. to keep up with our output as well. There are probably millions of rounds in stock at any one time (quite a sight when you first walk through) but most will ship out the door shortly after they are made.

The idea that Federal was stockpiling struck me as nonsense when I first heard it and after peeking in the warehouse I am sure it is nonsense. It is being shipped somewhere.

Sietch wrote:

I have in fact heard much the same as QuiChenKane. These people worked for Federal for a lot of years. They might have the same contacts.

Dee wrote:

Inventory costs money. No manufacturer is going to sit on inventory in the hope of future sales.

Author:	replicant_argent [ Mon May 11, 2009 9:31 am ]
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I think people were just questioning how you know that this is "solid" information. Like many things, just because someone told you, or you read it on the net, doesn't make it true, and the reason he gave you doesn't even sound remotely plausible. Sorry if I came across poorly.

Author:	QuiChenKane [ Mon May 11, 2009 9:45 am ]
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I never said it was solid. In fact I never thought it was solid. I brought it up because I wanted to debunk it. HE is solid. But he is also a bartender so he hears alot of crap. He also has a history with Federal, which is not my tale to tell. I think enough of him to ask a bunch of strangers if it sounds crazy, cuz if it doesnt, then maybe its time for me to sound crazy too.

Author:	Scott Hughes [ Mon May 11, 2009 9:48 am ]
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A thought that occurs to me is that the market may also fall big time if a huge tax were to be implemented. If that were the case they could end up with inventory gathering dust on the shelves. It's never good to have capital tied up in product that isn't moving.

Author:	chuckw [ Mon May 11, 2009 10:45 am ]
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QuiChenKane wrote: In fact I never thought it was solid. QuiChenKane - I understood what you were looking for, but the conversation took a tangent when it was suggested by others that your friend was right. The most plausible case for manufacturers to stockpile would be an ammunition serialization law. Then, we can expect demand for the less expensive non-serialized ammo to skyrocket. Well, maybe... - assuming that there's not a requirement that it all be shot or destroyed by a certain date. There's an argument to be made that this would actually cause ammo prices to fall - since everyone who has a stockpile larger than they could shoot before the deadline would try to sell their excess. And that law has only been proposed at the state levels, and died in committee almost everywhere in 2008, so it would have to be submitted all over again in 2009. Given the recent polls on the support for more gun laws, I can't see any politician touching that until after the 2010 elections.

Author:	Macx [ Mon May 11, 2009 12:20 pm ]
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Quote: Given the recent polls on the support for more gun laws, I can't see any politician touching that until after the 2010 elections. I am kinda hoping we don't see any politician touching that who isn't a deranged freak being pushed to run for office by his overbearing mother, but that doesn't really want to get elected.

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Author:	DeanC [ Mon May 11, 2009 4:05 pm ]
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Sietch wrote: El Dorado Exactly Reminds me of the Grapes of Wrath: "I hear there's plenty o' work out Californee way..." Shortages like these always lead to speculations about the mystical city of gold.

Author:	realtor_packing_heat [ Tue May 12, 2009 3:45 pm ]
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DeanC wrote: Sietch wrote: El Dorado Exactly Reminds me of the Grapes of Wrath: "I hear there's plenty o' work out Californee way..." Shortages like these always lead to speculations about the mystical city of gold. +1

Author:	exdrinker [ Sun May 17, 2009 9:36 pm ]
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I work at Federal and enter the warehouse on Fridays. I was in there last Friday and there were many empty shelves. Federal is very active with Lean Manufacturing techniques and storing up finished product is a no-no. We have trouble getting enough brass etc. to keep up with our output as well. There are probably millions of rounds in stock at any one time (quite a sight when you first walk through) but most will ship out the door shortly after they are made. The idea that Federal was stockpiling struck me as nonsense when I first heard it and after peeking in the warehouse I am sure it is nonsense. It is being shipped somewhere.

Author:	realtor_packing_heat [ Sun May 17, 2009 9:43 pm ]
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exdrinker wrote: I work at Federal Do you get an employee discount? If yes, sign me up

Author:	chunkstyle [ Sun May 17, 2009 9:54 pm ]
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exdrinker wrote: I work at Federal and enter the warehouse on Fridays. I was in there last Friday and there were many empty shelves. Federal is very active with Lean Manufacturing techniques and storing up finished product is a no-no. We have trouble getting enough brass etc. to keep up with our output as well. There are probably millions of rounds in stock at any one time (quite a sight when you first walk through) but most will ship out the door shortly after they are made. The idea that Federal was stockpiling struck me as nonsense when I first heard it and after peeking in the warehouse I am sure it is nonsense. It is being shipped somewhere. Police departments. So say some trucker friends of mine, who haul for Federal.

Author:	Sietch [ Mon May 18, 2009 6:02 pm ]
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I have in fact heard much the same as QuiChenKane. These people worked for Federal for a lot of years. They might have the same contacts.

Author:	chuckw [ Mon May 18, 2009 8:06 pm ]
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Sietch wrote: I have in fact heard much the same as QuiChenKane. These people worked for Federal for a lot of years. They might have the same contacts. Okay, we've now proved that the folks at federal are spreading rumors to further fuel the buying frenzy.

Author:	mrokern [ Mon May 18, 2009 8:30 pm ]
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Everybody miss the post a couple back from exdrinker who ACTUALLY WORKS AT FEDERAL? I'll believe the guy who's in the warehouse once a week. I'm also in Streichers enough to see agencies scrounging to get whatever they can, so it's obviously not some vast anti-consumer conspiracy. Yeesh, this is starting to sound like The High Road. -Mark

Author:	Dee [ Mon May 18, 2009 9:04 pm ]
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The current mantra for manufacturers is "Lean". Given todays economic conditions it makes sense. Inventory costs money. No manufacturer is going to sit on inventory in the hope of future sales. Any successful business (that has competition) today is by nature "lean" to some extent. Managers are not inclined to gamble by sitting on inventory. I don't think they would last long if they did.

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Author:	DeanC [ Mon May 18, 2009 9:37 pm ]
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Dee wrote: Inventory costs money. No manufacturer is going to sit on inventory in the hope of future sales. Especially when that inventory is 90+% comprised of highly (price) volatile industrial commodities.