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WSJ -- Democrats and Guns: Party liberals losing the debate.
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Author:  kimberman [ Tue May 19, 2009 8:00 am ]
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From the Wall Street Journal.

Democrats and Guns
Party liberals have lost the debate.

Amid so much other news, a Senate vote last week to allow loaded guns in national parks slipped under the media radar. The vote shows how the political cause of gun control is as dead as a mounted moose.

By 67-29, the Senate passed Oklahoma Republican Tom Coburn's amendment to let law-abiding visitors carry legal firearms into national parks. This overturns a 1983 federal rule requiring that firearms be kept unloaded and in an inaccessible place such as a trunk of a car. The provision (now part of credit-card legislation) protects Second Amendment rights, and it preserves the right of states to pass firearm laws that apply consistently, even on federal lands.

As recently as the 1990s, guns in parks legislation would have provoked a Congressional uproar. But gun control has proven to be a consistent political loser, and last year the Supreme Court cast doubt on state gun bans. No fewer than 27 Democrats voted for Mr. Coburn's amendment, and the ayes included Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is up for re-election in Nevada next year.

Congressional liberals are furious, and are threatening to hold up the credit-card bill, much as they have held up Washington, D.C. voting-rights legislation to which Republicans attached gun-owner protections. Holding up both bad bills forever would be fine with us, but in any case it's clear liberals have lost the gun control debate even within their own party.

Unfortunately, this is NOT true in Minnesota.

Author:  Scott Hughes [ Tue May 19, 2009 12:51 pm ]
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"Unfortunately, this is NOT true in Minnesota."

Hmmm, remind me of the definition of insanity. Or derangement at a minimum, maybe clinically described as obsessive/compulsive. That's how I see it.

Author:  Dee [ Wed May 20, 2009 11:17 pm ]
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...and it didn't slip under the media's radar. That's all the media talked about for a few days.

It might have slipped under the Wall Street journal's radar but they have no one to blame for that but themselves. :D

Author:  Lenny7 [ Thu May 21, 2009 7:01 am ]
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CNN was saying last night that the amendment was "slipped in", as if it was done in a sneaky fashion. I'm not sure how one can do that when the full congress voted on it. I even emailed Amy Klobuchar to thank her for her vote.

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