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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:29 am 
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Hello all, another newb here. I am relatively new to the world of carrying of firearms. I received my permit to carry in April, exactly 30 days after submitting my application to Mr. Stanek of Hennepin county. I also got the Utah permit. I joined the forum this morning after doing a google search on carrying at the State Fair, to which I visited yesterday and happened to spot one of the gun ban signs.

I have a bit of experience with online forums, being an administrator for one, moderator for another, and even ran my own for over a year. I enjoy them, but find that I have a hard time finding the time to participate as actively as I'd like to. I'll probably lurk more than post here, but hope to post enough for you to get to know me.

It is through my involvement in the forum that I am a moderator of, a small site dedicated to "bating" internet scammers, that I have become very wary of shedding anonymity on the internet. It's for that reason that I don't use my real name or other handles that would make me easy to find.

Thanks, and I'll see you around.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:10 pm 
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Onesimus wrote:
Hello all, another newb here. I am relatively new to the world of carrying of firearms. I received my permit to carry in April, exactly 30 days after submitting my application to Mr. Stanek of Hennepin county. I also got the Utah permit. I joined the forum this morning after doing a google search on carrying at the State Fair, to which I visited yesterday and happened to spot one of the gun ban signs.

I have a bit of experience with online forums, being an administrator for one, moderator for another, and even ran my own for over a year. I enjoy them, but find that I have a hard time finding the time to participate as actively as I'd like to. I'll probably lurk more than post here, but hope to post enough for you to get to know me.

It is through my involvement in the forum that I am a moderator of, a small site dedicated to "bating" internet scammers, that I have become very wary of shedding anonymity on the internet. It's for that reason that I don't use my real name or other handles that would make me easy to find.

Thanks, and I'll see you around.
That latter is very, very cool. I've never had the time to do it seriously -- I've had a little fun with some of the Nigerian scammers, but haven't followed through -- but I really enjoy watching scambaiting.

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 Post subject: Re: Customary Introduction
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:25 pm 
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It's fun, but not something to be careless about. Those guys actually have a lot of large, sophisticated gangs. If anyone is interested in having fun with them, I highly recommend playing by the rules that every baiting forum lays out (they aren't hard to find), whether or not you actually want to get involved on those forums. Certainly don't use your real name or personal email account. They aren't all in West Africa, some of them operate right here in the US of A, and I've heard a few cases where they have shown up at a baiter's workplace looking for them because the guy wasn't careful.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:38 pm 
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Welcome aboard! I've not had the time to pursue it, but I always get a kick out of seeing the results of scammers getting played... :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:16 pm 
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Welcome :)

And I just giggled at the latter part of your post -- nicely done!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:24 am 
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Welcome!

Something to help you feel at home:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:33 am 
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Now that's funny!

Just don't ask me to go to Western Union for you. I might have to demand a photo of you holding a sign with my name on it (Ima Jehrk) and wearing the carcass of a large fish as a hatl


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:56 am 
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I used to send this as a reply to the scam letters, but now I just delete them...

«Subject: REQUEST FOR CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS TRANSACTION
ATTN: President/CEO

I am the widow of the late President George W. Bush of the United States of America. I am writing you this letter in confidence regarding my current circumstances.

I escaped the United States ahead of death squads with my husband and two
children Jenna and Frank, moving first to England and then, when my husband's political enemies took power there, to Austria. All of our wealth, obtained legitimately through baseball, oil drilling and insider trading, was seized by the new government of the USA under the despotic regime of (Dr.) Noam Chomsky, except for the contents of a few Swiss bank accounts. These bank accounts, which contain social security lock-box funds and the bulk of the 2001 budget surplus, could not be accessed by me or my children, due to agreements made between the socialist government of the USA and Swiss bank regulators. They seized our ranch in Crawford, Texas and now use it to teach homosexualist propaganda to schoolchildren.

When my husband died during a visit to the Mr. Salty factory here in Vienna, I decided to lay low, changing my identity and communicating only through Mrs. Peggy Noonan. However, now that Chomsky is dead of apoplexy, my advisors suggest that the time is right for me to transfer some of these funds. I will wish to deposit $1,250,000,000 in a bank account for certain purchases, investments and other safe and reliable business opportunities. Please respond to this letter and indicate your interest in receiving the money for us. I will stress again how important confidentiality is; my husband's political enemies would like nothing better than to see me made penniless and our hard-earned retirement funds turned over to Tom Daschle.

Please respond with your contact information, including fax and telephone numbers, to signal interest in this mutually beneficial transaction. I will provide an introduction to my son (Frank), who will work with you in determining the logistics of the transfer and the method and amount of your remuneration. I would contact you via phone directly, but a spot of trouble in my youth has made me doubt myself around heavy machinery.

In sincere anticipation of a productive relationship,

Mrs. George W. Bush »


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:23 pm 
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That is hilarious! Very creative.

Too bad most scammers don't read the initial reply that people send them (we use it to "slap" them later on, 'I told you 100 f'ing times, you dolt!')


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:35 pm 
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Full disclosure needed: The response I previously posted is not my work. I found it on the net. It's funny but many of the references would be lost on a scammer I think, especially one from Africa.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:33 am 
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Not to take the board on a tangent, but a developmentally challenged ex-neighbor of mine got involved in a scam in which it was purported that he had a long-lost uncle die in Des Moines, leaving him a great deal of money. The "attorney" who contacted him (in fact some high-school drop-out in Memphis) had to, of course, have his fees paid up-front. My ex-neighbor scoured the neighborhood seeking out those that could help him raise the $1,500 fees. He was successful in that and wired the money to the "attorney". He even drove to Des Moines to find the gravesite, attorney, etc. Naturally, nothing could be found, but the ex-neighbor, for months, kept wondering in amazement how it came to be that he had a relative in Des Moines. He never "got it" that he had been outright scammed and that there was no long-lost relative.

As an adjunct, he later found a mailing from Wells Fargo to his roommate. This mailing was one of those standard blank check things that all you had to do was sign, deposit, and then you had a wonderful 27.75% loan with Wells Fargo. He forged the roommate's signature and deposited it into his account at the Hiway Credit Union in St. Paul. The check was in the amount of $16,000.00. He is my "ex" neighbor now for obvious reasons.

This person used the free computers at the library across 7th street from Metropolitan State University, and his email account was from Yahoo. You certainly do not have to have your own computer or a sophisticated email address to get scammed.

By the way, the $16,000.00? He alleges that he spent most of it pursuing other scams and gave some of it to a fellow free computer user that was going to find some land so that they could open up a non-denominational "church". The fellow never found any land, nor has he been seen by my ex-neighbor since he gave him the money. Oh, $225.00 was used to purchase his "ordination". :lol:

The moral of the story? Do not reply to any emails from which you do not know the sender first-hand, and even with that you must be vigilant at all times.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:56 am 
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My 92 year old mother got a call from someone saying "This is your Grandson." Mother says, "John is that you?"

Then "Yes this is John, and I am stuck in Canada and need $5,000 wired to me right away." My mother would have sent the money if she could have gotten to the bank.

I told her next time she gets such a call to ask, "Ralph is that you? and when the caller says "yes" tell him you have no Grandson named Ralph and tell him to "kiss my yaktabay" or something to that effect.

It took me 6 weeks to convince her that John is not in trouble in Canada.


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I recently had a friend on facebook PM me and tell me he had been robbed and was stuck in England with no credit cards or cell phone and needed money wired to him.

I hadn't really talked to the guy in several years, but I had his office phone number so I called and they told me he was not in England and he was out golfing.

I called him on his cell phone and told him to change his password ASAP.

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