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Author:  Harland [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

I'm in the market for a new 9mm Pistol. Right now I'm looking at a Springfield XD Service Model, 4" Barrel as a serious contender.
The one I'm looking at comes with w/Heinie Slant Pro Night Sights.

Anyway, never having shot the above gun, I'm wondering:

1. How is the out-of-box trigger on this gun (or XDs in general.)
2. Does anyone have any experience with a fairly similar pistol that might have a better trigger (Must be DAO, High-CAP, etc.)?

Price is an issue.

Author:  Blued Steel [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

No DAO is going to have a superb trigger, there are just too many things the trigger is trying to do at once to get an excellent trigger.

Author:  Harland [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

Blued Steel wrote:
No DAO is going to have a superb trigger, there are just too many things the trigger is trying to do at once to get an excellent trigger.


I just want to know which one is considered the best by those who have shot them. Are you saying I should buy a 1911? :wink:

Author:  White Horseradish [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:29 pm ]
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Blued Steel wrote:
No DAO is going to have a superb trigger, there are just too many things the trigger is trying to do at once to get an excellent trigger.
That's true, but XD is single action. :)

Author:  Harland [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

White Horseradish wrote:
Blued Steel wrote:
No DAO is going to have a superb trigger, there are just too many things the trigger is trying to do at once to get an excellent trigger.
That's true, but XD is single action. :)


Oooh, that's true, so technically I don't need DAO. But I hope you get the idea. Pistol ala Glock, XD, M&P- you get the idea.

Author:  mrokern [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

There are some nice trigger jobs that can supposedly be done to the XD as well, removing a lot of the initial takeup.

-Mark

Author:  Harland [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

mrokern wrote:
There are some nice trigger jobs that can supposedly be done to the XD as well, removing a lot of the initial takeup.

-Mark


... And honestly, I think I've got my mind pretty set on the XD. The Heine Straight 8 Night sight option right from the factory is a very nice selling point. I do however like to hear from others since I just don't get out near enuf and I haven't shot a lot of different guns. Oddly not very attracted to the Glocks. CZs are sweet but their polymer guns don't seem to be very popular for some reason.

Author:  Moby Clarke [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

I will throw my weight behind the Glocks. While the OOB trigger is good, I have found I like the NY 1 Trigger much better. This is a drop in part and really makes a huge difference in travel slop, crisp break and overall trigger happiness. The Glock is my primary gun.

Author:  rtk [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

Swapping a Glock trigger can be done locally and there are many combos to be had. Last I heard was the trigger work on an XD must be shipped out of state to have it done.

Author:  mrokern [ Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

Moby Clarke wrote:
I will throw my weight behind the Glocks. While the OOB trigger is good, I have found I like the NY 1 Trigger much better. This is a drop in part and really makes a huge difference in travel slop, crisp break and overall trigger happiness. The Glock is my primary gun.


I prefer Glock myself, but it's a matter of what points naturally for me.

Harland, if you're trying to decide between them just see which one fits your natural point of aim better. There's enough difference in the grip angle that it should be very noticeable. Whichever one is better, buy it. Both are known for being as reliable as death and taxes.

-Mark

Author:  ironbear [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

Harland wrote:
2. Does anyone have any experience with a fairly similar pistol that might have a better trigger (Must be DAO, High-CAP, etc.)?

You are mentioning Glocks, XD's, etc. that are not true DAO. Of the true DAO pistols, I've found the CZ's to be mildly rough, the Tanfoglio's (EAA Witness) to be somewhat better, and the Sig DAK trigger to be outstanding. All are true DAO, in that they provide second-strike capability.

Author:  mrokern [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

Hmmm, would this be a place to plug the HK P7? :mrgreen:

Second strike capability, but striker-fired...

Might break the bank a bit, though.

-Mark

Author:  ScottM [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

Harland wrote:
Blued Steel wrote:
No DAO is going to have a superb trigger, there are just too many things the trigger is trying to do at once to get an excellent trigger.


I just want to know which one is considered the best by those who have shot them. Are you saying I should buy a 1911? :wink:


Of course you should buy a 1911 unless you like gritty, nasty icky triggers and guns with weird safeties.

Author:  mrokern [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

ScottM wrote:
Harland wrote:
Blued Steel wrote:
No DAO is going to have a superb trigger, there are just too many things the trigger is trying to do at once to get an excellent trigger.


I just want to know which one is considered the best by those who have shot them. Are you saying I should buy a 1911? :wink:


Of course you should buy a 1911 unless you like gritty, nasty icky triggers and guns with weird safeties.


I'm taking care of that 1911 problem next week. :mrgreen:

Between that and the P7, I should have about two of the nicest triggers around in my safe.

Until the boating accident that is bound to happen the week after next, of course.

-Mark

Author:  Harland [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best out-of-box trigger on a Semi-Auto?

If I could afford a good Kimber or an EMP I'd think about the 1911 route, but for the time being I wanna keep the price between $500-700.
HK P7? No offense but kinda ugly. :wink: BTW, no votes for M&P yet? Signs of scarcity or lack of interest I wonder?

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