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Stradawhovious
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Post subject: Taurus 85 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:38 pm |
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Forgive the ignorance, but I figured y'all could answer this one for me. I recently purchased my first revolver, and I'm trying to figure out what ammo to carry. On the Taurus website it says the model 85 snubby is rated for the +p loads, but can it handle the +p+ loads safely? As usual, any help would be appreciated.
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cmj685
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:46 am |
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I wouldn't shoot +p+ in the gun for three reasons: 1) nothing in the manual says it is OK; 2) when you shoot the simple +p in it you will find that this gun is pretty uncomfortable to shoot just with that load in it already! Why tear up your body? 3) Why tear up the gun unnecessarily?
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:42 am |
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Yeah - don't do it.
+P is a defined industry standard. +P+ is made up nomenclature with no defined pressure ceiling. Who knows what it really means?
Besides, once you shoot those +P's, you won't want anything hotter.
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KonaSeven
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:51 pm |
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I regularly carry the Taurus 851SSUL. Same model different hammer configuration. At the range I shoot 38Specials. This of course is for the reduced recoil. I do run a wheel or two of the carry ammo through each time also. The first few shots I find myself saying, "Nothing too bad about this +p stuff." Then after about shot 10 or 12 It's, "Hmm that does smart. This isn't fun anymore."
If you are worried that 38+p is not enough*, you could always carry a .357 snubby, shoot the 38's for practice and just take the punishment as you test your carry ammo.
The gun itself seems reasonably well made. As a machinist there are some things I do not like. However, it measures up well compared to other models rated for +p.
*Let's not go there.
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Stradawhovious
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:06 pm |
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KonaSeven wrote: If you are worried that 38+p is not enough*, ..........
*Let's not go there.
I am not really worried about whether or not it's enough, as I am sure the +p (God forbid I ever have to find out) would do the trick, I just haven't had any experience with +p+ ammo. I have gone through a wheel or two of the +p, and to be perfectly honest didn't feel much of a difference between it and the factory range loads with this particular gun. Thanks for all the input, it certainly sheds some light on the subject.
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cmj685
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:23 am |
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One additional thing I might point out, having kept comprehensive records of every shot I have ever fired with this gun with a separate breakdown for every different ammo used--I find that +P ammo shoots very accurately. On the other hand, regular .38 special in my gun shoots very, very high. Just FYI.
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Stradawhovious
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:19 am |
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Thanks again for all who replied on the previous question
Now to drag things out with a new one........
I have put a couple of hundred rounds through this gun already, and find it suitably accurate with both range ammo and +p, with that in mind..... discounting caliber and capacity, what issues with this particular model (if any) should I be aware of when considering this weapon for carry?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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cmj685
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:54 pm |
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I carry this gun in my pocket all the time. The only issue is the hammer catching on the pocket material. Otherwise it is a terrific carry. I use a simple Uncle Mike's Sidekick holster because it fits both my guns well-enough.
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phorvick
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:24 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:37 pm Posts: 1571 Location: Detroit Lakes, MN
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I have one also...exposed hammer, all steel. I have a CT Laser grip on it and it is one of my favorite guns to use to introduce shooters to handguns.
Although I have carried it and have 100% reliability, I also have a hammerless model, light weight, that is more comfortable to carry, allbeit less comfortable to shoot
These guns are a great bang for the buck, and often found used in the <$200 range, which makes them a very attractive purchase for those on a budget that also want a reliable firearm.
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KonaSeven
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:26 pm |
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cmj685 wrote: The only issue is the hammer catching on the pocket material. Otherwise it is a terrific carry.
I found that was a problem with several that I tried. With my hand size it was too tight to draw without catching a conventional hammer. I ended up going with the 851SSUL. It draws very nice and still allows SA when desired. It doesn't have the classic snub-nose look however.
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"The attitude of people associating guns with nothing but crime, that is what has to be changed. I grew up at a time when people were not afraid of people with firearms." —Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia
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