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Pinnacle
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Post subject:  Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:25 am |
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One reason not to copy them was geopolitical. During the Cold War, there were three blocs--the Communist, the "West" and the non-aligned. The Communist bloc dictated that armed forces would use the 7.62x39 cartridge and some variant of AK47. The West chose the 7.62x54 (.308) and, later. the 5.54 that we all know.
Hate to be a NIT picker
we use the 7.62x51mm (.308 Win) and prior to that the 7.62x63mm (30-06)
The Ar is 5.56x45mm Mil Designator the M855 (Ammunition now issued)
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:27 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:35 am |
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I am sorry I meant to PM that to you.
Remember - I tal kabout this stuff ALL DAY - was just on the phone wiht an overseas ballistics researcher looking for infrormation.
SO - This is what I do - and about all that I do. ALL DAY EVERY DAY 24/7/365
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Old Dude
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:39 am |
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Not to worry. I am recovering from stomach flu and posted without proper regard for looking at something called "data" before posting. I'll go take my pills and then I'll be much better.  Yeah, right.
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Pinnacle
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:54 pm |
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Hope you feel better.
Stomach FLU Blows...
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:11 pm |
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Pinnacle wrote: Stomach FLU Blows... Well, that's obvious 
Now, what about the 5.45 x 39mm; the new Com-bloc round?
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I am defending myself... in favor of that!
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:20 pm |
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Another .22 - but with a good bullet that was well designed.
It is viscious - but still another .22 and not as plentiful as the .30 Cal round.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:14 pm |
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DeanC wrote: Now, what about the 5.45 x 39mm; the new Com-bloc round? Has anyone outside of Russia actually adopted it? My guess would be "no", and I wouldn't be surprised if the old 7.62x39 guns didn't outnumber the new ones by 10:1 in Russian arsenals.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:00 pm |
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mobocracy wrote: DeanC wrote: Now, what about the 5.45 x 39mm; the new Com-bloc round? Has anyone outside of Russia actually adopted it? My guess would be "no", and I wouldn't be surprised if the old 7.62x39 guns didn't outnumber the new ones by 10:1 in Russian arsenals. East Germany, Poland, and Bulgaria ... among others .. switched to the AK-74 using the 5.45
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:31 pm |
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A Brit in MN
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:37 am |
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History Channel last week had the top 10 battle rifles.
1. AK and it's variants
2. AR and it's variants
3. SMLE (Short Magazine Lee Enfield)
A bolt gun out scored the FAL G3 Stg 44 Garand 1903 M14 Mauser
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7.62x39 works just fine up close, which is more than I will say about the poodle shooter we currently deploy with our troops.
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