Glock FMJ vs Lead (split from Caliber newbie)
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Selurcspi
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Post subject:  Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:32 am |
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DeanC wrote: Selurcspi wrote: Invest in a Lewis Kit and test the theory... Actually I need one. My 45 acp handloads were a little hot and I've started leading the barrel on my XD in less than 300 rounds. In order to fully test the theory, I'll also need to buy a Glock. Dogone it! I hate it when I have to buy a new gun just to prove a point!  Glad I could help 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:11 pm |
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A little bit of information on this discussion from The Gun Zone.
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/manual.html
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Red XIII
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:48 pm |
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My Manual says it was revised in May of 2004...so the manual is 2 yrs old I guess, which is odd to me. Also, all the pics are of old Glocks w/o finger grooves except front cover. No lead bullet warning, just says to use:
"Original high-quality commercially manufactured ammunition in good quality."
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Red XIII wrote: My Manual says it was revised in May of 2004...so the manual is 2 yrs old I guess, which is odd to me. Also, all the pics are of old Glocks w/o finger grooves except front cover. No lead bullet warning, just says to use:
"Original high-quality commercially manufactured ammunition in good quality."
Red Mine says same
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:25 pm |
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Does it say use of hand loads will void the mfg warranty?
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Red XIII
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:08 pm |
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DeanC wrote: Does it say use of hand loads will void the mfg warranty? Yes, due to "Unpredictability of the standards (SAMI/NATO)..."
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:33 pm |
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I tend to think that soft lead is the problem, not all lead. It's just easier for Glock to tell us that any lead is dangerous.
I've seen a number of Glock blowouts and bulged barrels, and they tend to fall into two camps: using bargain basement lead ammo with little or no cleaning and/or repeatedly loading and unloading defensive ammo until the bullets are no longer properly seated.
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goalie
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:41 am |
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I have shot in excess of 10k rounds of reloaded ammo through my G17. I reload FMJ bulk Winchester bullets.
I am still alive and kicking.
I guess wonders never cease.
Oh, people might want to go and read their manuals from other handgun manufacturers. You may be suprised what you find in there regarding handloads.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:54 pm |
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That's true, Goalie. Every gun I've bought in recent years says not to use reloaded ammunition in the owners manual. Some S&W's I bought in the 60's and 70's don't say that, they never even came with a manual, just a folded piece of paper with some technical data and a parts list with prices.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:37 pm |
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Hey lets face it
Any machine WILL fail and fail badly when the operating parameters are exceeded - you may get away wtih it once - twice - often the third time is the charm.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:57 pm |
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They tell us not to use home reloads strictly to appease the corporate lawyers.
I think even my Springfield's, which all have lifetime warranties, have exclusions for hand loaded ammo.
I've only sent one gun back for service one time, and they never asked me about the ammo I was using.
They just fixed the gun and sent it back.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:35 pm |
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My experiences with my Glock 32...
357 sig
I loaded up some moly coated bullets, well I guess 1500+fps, is to fast for it. Stripped the moly off, as well as leaded up my barrel Would not chamber rounds after 50. It was bad.
9mm though never really had a problem, as long as I keeped them at a lower velocity.
Lead and speed = a messy barrel
Just my 2 cents
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:48 am |
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Big_John wrote: My experiences with my Glock 32...
357 sig
I loaded up some moly coated bullets, well I guess 1500+fps, is to fast for it. Stripped the moly off, as well as leaded up my barrel Would not chamber rounds after 50. It was bad.
9mm though never really had a problem, as long as I keeped them at a lower velocity.
Lead and speed = a messy barrel
Just my 2 cents May I ask (w/o you giving up trade secrets) how youreload em and get them that hot? lol. 
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:53 pm |
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I leaded up my XD45 barrel and my 1911. All you really have to do with naked bullets is get them going over 900 fps which isn't very hard.
A 357sig screams by nature. With that bottleneck case, you can get some serious velocity.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:57 pm |
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Why not just buy an aftermarket barrel for shooting lead in Glocks? I have a KKM in my G29 that's button rifled and has much better chamber support. And way more accurate than the stock barrel.
I don't shoot lead in mine (although I do shoot reloads), but for someone who wanted to shoot lead its certainly a viable option that sidesteps both the lead vs. polygonal rifling and the chamber support vs. reloads issue.
Most are available drop-in, and very reasonably priced.
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