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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:40 pm 
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Here are a couple bullets I recovered after doing some plinking.
The bullet on the right is a Magtech 45ACP 230gr. FMC, the bullet on the left is my usual flavor of carry ammo, Winchester Supreme 45AUTO 230gr SXT.
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NOTCHED JACKET FOR UNIFORM MUSHROOM
2 PART HOLLOW POINT CAVITY FOR MUSHROOMS AT ALL RANGES
REVERSE TAPER JACKET LOCKS CORE


These were recovered after they had passed through a stack of wood I was poking holes in. The wood consisted of a stackup of a hardwood 4x4, a pine 2x10, and a 1-3/4" thick laminated 2x10. (Used as an engineered header for a pole barn.)

The "Mushroom" shape does not quite match the picture on the box!
8) 8) :D :D

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Close up of the hollow point full of wood.
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This looks very normal for having been stopped by wood.

Hollow points and most other pre-frags are forced to deform by the hydraulic action produce by our mostly water, bodies. They don't deform much unless stopped by impenetrable things like thick steel bricks and concrete etc.
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Yes, I have had similar experiences with other defense type handgun ammo in wood. As a comparison I was also shooting a Mosin Nagant with surplus FMJ and an Enfield with softpoint hunting bullets into the same stack of wood.

The MN penetrated 16 inches of various wood and made a wonderful spray of dirt in the backstop. The hunting rounds from the Enfield had completely expanded after the hardwood 4x4 and I found the lead globs in the laminate (third layer of wood) and the copper jacket in the pine board (second layer of wood.) The handgun had about the same penetration in wood as the rifle with hunting rounds, but the rifle destroyed the wood blowing large chunks in every direction. :D :D :D

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As long as you are not being attacked by Pinocchio you should be alright :P

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ttousi wrote:
As long as you are not being attacked by Pinocchio you should be alright :P

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I think the penetration would still do the job on Pinocchio :wink:

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Ok. These last two posts confuse me. Am I or am I not prepared for the invasion of anthropomorphic dendromutants with a Mosin and a can of surplus FMJ?


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