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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:57 pm 
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This is an artical from the London Daily Telegraph


Barack Obama is on a collision course with his critics after picking a fight with Rush Limbaugh, America's most influential conservative commentator.
Mr Obama has told Republicans in Washington to stop listening to the right-wing talk show host Rush Limbaugh, risking a new culture war with conservative voters.
His exhortation came as he enraged other Republicans by reversing George W Bush's ban on funding international aid to charities that perform or provide information about abortions.
After less than a week in office, Mr Obama's presidency is already encountering the very partisan bickering he had pledged to stamp out during his first 100 days.
He faces mounting criticism over his $825 billion economic stimulus plan, from Republican leaders who say the legislation has been drawn up without the input which Mr Obama had promised to allow them.
The president responded with a clear signal that he is prepared to ram the bill through without the bipartisan consensus he promised to construct, telling Republican leaders from the House of Representatives: "I won. I'm the president."
He then told them to break free of the confrontational mindset epitomised by Mr Limbaugh, the highest paid talk show host in America. "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," Mr Obama said.
His comments followed a blunt attack on him by Mr Limbaugh, who declared on air that he hoped Mr Obama would fail as president because otherwise it will usher in socialism.
With characteristic robustness, he said: "We are being told we have to hope he succeeds, that we have to bend over and grab our ankles... because his father was black, because he's the first black president, we've got to accept this."
After the euphoria of his inauguration, Mr Obama's team have been handed a cold dose of political reality. A series of controversial policy decisions, mistakes and unforeseen events has brought home the difficulty of bridging the divisions in Washington.
Mr Obama has pledged to end the culture wars on social issues that have riven American politics for a generation and did not allow television cameras to film him signing the executive order reversing the Bush abortion funding ban on aid agencies abroad, in order not to provoke pro-life groups.
When he finally did sign the order he issued a statement in a bid to placate abortion critics by promising to "reach out to those on all sides of this issue to achieve the goal of reducing unintended pregnancies." He added: "It is time that we end the politicisation of this issue."
But despite his efforts, the reaction was brutal. Family groups accused him of plotting the "infanticide" of African children. Former presidential candidate Gary Bauer, president of the American Values pressure group, said: "It is both sad and infuriating that in the same week President Obama extended new rights to prisoners at Guantanamo Bay and began planning to release men whom we know have murdered Americans, he is preparing to sentence innocent children to death through abortion."
Meanwhile the decision by the Food and Drug Administration to approve the first human trials of embryonic stem cells, anathema to the Christian right, has intensified the bubbling culture war.
Republicans are also angry that the economic stimulus plan contains funding for contraceptives and other Democratic pet projects that might take years to have any effect on the downturn. The moderate conservative columnist David Brooks, who dined recently with Mr Obama, wrote: "The bill is an unholy marriage that manages to combine the worst of each approach - rushed short-term planning with expensive long-term fiscal impact."
Republicans are also criticising Mr Obama's decision to close the Guantanamo Bay detention camp with no plan for the detainees still incarcerated there and for forcing the CIA to follow stricter rules on interrogations. The revelation last week that 60 former inmates have returned to terrorism - and that one is now deputy leader of al Qaeda's Yemeni branch - was unfortunate timing for the President.
Other elements of Mr Obama's political morning after, like most hangovers, are self-inflicted. Having announced new ethics rules banning lobbyists serving in his administration, the president was immediately forced to make an exception for his deputy defence secretary William Lynn, who has lobbied for the defence industry giant Raytheon.
The president has also reacted badly to his first taste of tougher questioning from the previously supine Washington press corps - becoming visibly irritated, during a visit to journalists' offices in the White House, when asked a substantive question about the ethics affair.
The White House's failure to arrange for television cameras to record Mr Obama's second swearing in, held on Wednesday night because he and Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts botched the wording at his inauguration, infuriated broadcasters.
That incident has also sparked a predictable backlash from the Christian right, with commentators like Fiox News host Glenn Beck suggesting, inaccurately, that Mr Obama might not be a legitimate president because he did not use a Bible for the second swearing in.
A Democratic strategist who has run two presidential campaigns told The Sunday Telegraph: "What can I say? 'Welcome to Washington, Mr President'.
"They knew what to expect but they've had it all their own way for so long that the speed of it may have come as a surprise. The Obama people like a scrap, they've proved that throughout the year, none more than the president. But they know they're in a fight now. And it probably won't let up for eight years."


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Five Seven wrote:
"...The president responded with a clear signal that he is prepared to ram the bill through without the bipartisan consensus he promised to construct, telling Republican leaders from the House of Representatives: "I won. I'm the president.""


This arrogance might cost him much of his power in two years, but in the mean time it's going to be source of countless problems for conservatives.


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By "him" telling people not to listen, just gave RL the best endorsement EVER! :wink:


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lumbering.buffalo wrote:
Five Seven wrote:
"...The president responded with a clear signal that he is prepared to ram the bill through without the bipartisan consensus he promised to construct, telling Republican leaders from the House of Representatives: "I won. I'm the president.""


This arrogance might cost him much of his power in two years, but in the mean time it's going to be source of countless problems for conservatives.


If true, it's pretty much the mirror image of Bush's arrogance in 2001, when he didn't QUITE win, but got the job anyway.

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lumbering.buffalo wrote:
Five Seven wrote:
"...The president responded with a clear signal that he is prepared to ram the bill through without the bipartisan consensus he promised to construct, telling Republican leaders from the House of Representatives: "I won. I'm the president.""


This arrogance might cost him much of his power in two years, but in the mean time it's going to be source of countless problems for conservatives.


Hey, it'll cause problems for folks like me who aren't conservative either. Of course, it'll cause problems for Obama supporters & other left-wing nut jobs as well, so at least we'll all be getting screwed equally. Two cheers for Socialism...!

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lumbering.buffalo wrote:
Five Seven wrote:
"...The president responded with a clear signal that he is prepared to ram the bill through without the bipartisan consensus he promised to construct, telling Republican leaders from the House of Representatives: "I won. I'm the president.""


This arrogance might cost him much of his power in two years, but in the mean time it's going to be source of countless problems for conservatives.


If true, it's pretty much the mirror image of Bush's arrogance in 2001, when he didn't QUITE win, but got the job anyway.


Of course, there isn't any "quite" about it. Bush won, period. You'd think people would be over that by now...

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A Democratic strategist who has run two presidential campaigns told The Sunday Telegraph: "What can I say? 'Welcome to Washington, Mr President'.
"They knew what to expect but they've had it all their own way for so long that the speed of it may have come as a surprise. The Obama people like a scrap, they've proved that throughout the year, none more than the president. But they know they're in a fight now. And it probably won't let up for eight years."


Actually, I think there's a good chance it'll stop cold in just under four years. :)

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Prayers answered = Barry gone in 4. :twisted:

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This is just the beginning. This "honeymoon" phase might even be shorter than most expected, due to the crap he's pulling just days into his presidency.

Just wait....it will get worse. Spouting rhetoric during a campaign to make people feel good ("Hope!", "Change!"), and then actually trying to make good on all of those promises, is going to be A LOT harder than he and his cabinet could ever imagine.

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Scott Hughes wrote:
Prayers answered = Barry gone in 4. :twisted:



Who's Barry? Image

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Who's Barry?

I don't think it's "Goldwater".

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Williams?????????? :shock:

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5 - 7 Here's the link to the Newsweek article (soft piece).

WHEN BARRY BECAME BARACK

http://www.newsweek.com/id/128633

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How approachable, kind of like "Bill" :roll:

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