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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:14 am 
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AMEN to this. This is outstanding.. ----- Luke AFB is
> west of Phoenix and
> is rapidly being surrounded by
>
> civilization that complains about the noise from the base
> and its planes,
> forgetting that it was there long before they were. A
> certain lieutenant
> colonel at Luke AFB deserves a big pat on the back.
> Apparently, an
> individual who lives somewhere near Luke AFB wrote the
> local paper
> complaining about a group of F-16s that disturbed his/her
> day at the mall.
> When that individual read the response from a Luke AFB
> officer, it must Have
> stung quite a bit..The complaint:' Question of the day
> for Luke Air Force
> Base: Whom do we thank for the morning air show? Last
> Wednesday, at
> precisely 9:11 AM, a tight formation of four F-16 jets made
> a low pass over
> Arrowhead Mall, continuing west over Bell Road at
> approximately 500 feet.
>
> Imagine our good fortune! Do the Tom Cruise-wannabes feel
> we need this
> wake-up call, or were they trying to impress the cashiers
> at Mervyns early
> bird special? Any response would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> The response: Regarding 'A wake-up call from Luke's
> jets' On June 15, at
> precisely 9:12 a.m., a perfectly timed four- ship fly by of
> F-16s from the
> 63rd Fighter Squadron at Luke Air Force Base flew over the
> grave of Capt.
> Jeremy Fresques. Capt Fresques was an Air Force officer who
> was previously
> stationed at Luke Air Force Base and was killed in Iraq on
> May 30, Memorial
> Day.At 9 a. m. on June 15, his family and friends gathered
> at Sunland
> Memorial Park in Sun City to mourn the loss of a husband,
> son and friend.
> Based on the letter writer's recount of the fly by, and
> because of the jet
> noise, I'm sure you didn't hear the 21-gun salute,
> the playing of t aps, or
> my words to the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques as I
> gave them their
> son's flag on behalf of the President of theUnited
> States and all those
> veterans and servicemen and women who understand the
> sacrifices they have
> endured..A four-ship fly by is a display of respect the Air
> Force gives to
> those who give their lives in defense of freedom. We are
> professional
> aviators and take our jobs seriously, and on June 15 what
> the letter writer
> witnessed was four officers lining up to pay their ultimate
> respects.
>
>
>
> > The letter writer asks, 'Whom do we thank for the
> morning air show?
>
> > The56th Fighter Wing will make the call for you, and
> forward your thanks
> to the widow and parents of Capt Fresques, and thank them
> for you, for it
> was in their honor that my pilots flew the most honorable
> formation of their
> lives. Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for
> you.....Jesus
> Christ and the American Soldier.One died for your soul, the
> other for your
> freedom.Lt. Col. Grant L. Rosensteel, Jr.USAF
>
> > How ALL phones SHOULD be answered! GOOD MORNING,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.........
> Please Press '1' for
>
> English. Press '2' to disconnect until you learn
> to speak English And
>
> remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die
> for you, Jesus
> Christ
>
> >
>
> > And the American Soldier One died for your soul,
> The other for your
>
> freedom. If you agree.......


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To his credit, the original complainer wrote to the newspaper again to apologize deeply once he found out the reason for his early awakening. I saw it myself.

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I would hope so...............open mouth/insert foot

I do that a lot! :P


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WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.........
Please Press '1' for English.
Press '2' to disconnect until you learn to speak English And
remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die
for you, Jesus Christ And the American Soldier
One died for your soul, The other for your freedom.

What number would Jesus have had to choose?


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Pakrat wrote:
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WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.........
Please Press '1' for English.
Press '2' to disconnect until you learn to speak English And
remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die
for you, Jesus Christ And the American Soldier
One died for your soul, The other for your freedom.

What number would Jesus have had to choose?


What's the number to the White House? There's your answer! :roll:

Except, he who answers that phone won't die for your freedom, OR your soul, he'll just take them! :wink:


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What number would Jesus have had to choose?


Umm, that didn't answer the above question.
The answer should have been "probably the number for Hebrew"?


BTW, that letter should be attributed to Lt. Col Scott Pleus from Luke.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp

That letter was great but someone just had to inject that last little bit about speaking Spanish. It's a pet peeve of mine too since I don't speak Spanish but sometimes listening to the same old tune being beaten on the same old drum makes my ears hurt.


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I figured jesus spoke latin. I found this article:

http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/jesuslanguage.htm


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Aramaic? OK, I wouldn't have guessed that.
According to the article, there is a possibility that he knew Hebrew and Greek too.


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What number would Jesus have had to choose?


Umm, that didn't answer the above question.
The answer should have been "probably the number for Hebrew"?


BTW, that letter should be attributed to Lt. Col Scott Pleus from Luke.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp

That letter was great but someone just had to inject that last little bit about speaking Spanish. It's a pet peeve of mine too since I don't speak Spanish but sometimes listening to the same old tune being beaten on the same old drum makes my ears hurt.


I figure it did answer the question, unless I misunderstood. Press one for English, Press 2 for Spanish, Press (White house number) to speak to Jesus!


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No, not to speak to jesus. What number would jesus have had to press since he didn't speak english. There is a american-centric tone to the thing you posted, not surprisingly the article talks about the exact thing I was thinking. A percentage of americans who would actually think jesus would have spoken english.


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No, not to speak to jesus. What number would jesus have had to press since he didn't speak english. There is a american-centric tone to the thing you posted, not surprisingly the article talks about the exact thing I was thinking. A percentage of americans who would actually think jesus would have spoken english.


ImageWell, that simply makes no sense, no sense at all! :roll:


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Pakrat wrote:
No, not to speak to jesus. What number would jesus have had to press since he didn't speak english. There is a american-centric tone to the thing you posted, not surprisingly the article talks about the exact thing I was thinking. A percentage of americans who would actually think jesus would have spoken english.


How large a percentage would that be? I mean, sounds nice, but I have never actually met anybody so stupid that he or she would have ever thought that.

Given that Jesus was, in Christian belief, the son of God, and one part of the Trinity, which makes him God as well, his command of human languages would be impressive.

I would expect that he would speak to each individual in his own tongue, whether Aramaic, Hindu, English, or Chinese. But not Hip-Hop. I think he would tell anybody speaking Hip-Hop to go back to school and learn English.

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He'd say, "Well, if ya axe me, you needs ta go back ta school fool!" :P


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How large a percentage would that be? I mean, sounds nice, but I have never actually met anybody so stupid that he or she would have ever thought that.

Large enough for someone to write an article on it. It's on someone's radar for a reason.

As for meeting stupid people... Just because you haven't met someone you deem not stupid enough, doesn't mean they aren't right in front of you. Have you asked people "what language does jesus speak?"

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I would expect that he would speak to each individual in his own tongue, whether Aramaic, Hindu, English, or Chinese.

Very valid point, and I could agree with that.

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But not Hip-Hop. I think he would tell anybody speaking Hip-Hop to go back to school and learn English.

So you have met people stupid enough? These are the people you should ask the question to. :P


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I figure it did answer the question, unless I misunderstood. Press one for English, Press 2 for Spanish, Press (White house number) to speak to Jesus!

Ah! I get what you were getting at now.

Meanwhile.... According to Mark Roberts:
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Second, the fact that Jesus didn't speak English reminds us that he lived in a culture quite different from ours. If we're going to understand Jesus, we need to take this difference seriously. Sometimes, however, we forget to do this. In a recent survey, people were asked to name the greatest American of all time. Jesus came in thirteenth on the list! (Ironically, Jesus tied with Bill Clinton.) Once we get beyond the silliness of this ranking, we discover a genuine problem. The more we see Jesus through the lens of American culture, the less we will know him as he really was - and reall


Here is the survey, in Harpers Magazine:
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Rank shared by Jesus Christ and Bill Clinton among "the greatest Americans of all time," according to Americans


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