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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:44 am 
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YEA! I finally get to use this image!

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tie their shoes (see "crocks")


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Sorry, they just look dumb on anyone who isn't gardening, working in a professional kitchen, or under 12 years old.

Except on Bruce. Viking axe murderers may wear what they want, where they want, and nobody gets to say jack about it. 8)

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This is more fun than a barrel of monkeys! FYI...I can lay a mean tile floor, excavate, mix and pour a level cement slab, change my oil and install a new toilet and replace electrical fixtures (although I admit electricity scares me ). I know how to use loud power tools and do so with great enthusiasm... I can also sew you a suit from scratch and outcook most people ('cept for mom of course). Got a forge? I can twist iron like my papa...I CAN do it all...learned from the best.....BUT when the love of my life gets the door for me and holds me like I'm the only woman in the world??? Man...I feel like a woman! And I love it!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:00 am 
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What should a young male of 21 know and what should he be able to do? There are no conclusive answers to those questions, but they are certainly worth asking. We agreed upon "civics" or what was called American government. A young man should know how this country is run and how it got that way. He should know the Federalist Papers and de Tocqueville, and he should know recent world history. If he does not know what has been tried in the past, he cannot very well avoid those pitfalls as they come up in the future.

Superficialities, of course, are rife. A young man should be computer literate, and moreover should know Hemingway from James Joyce. He should know how to drive a car well - such as is not covered in "Driver Ed." He should know how to fly a light airplane. He should know how to shoot well. He should know elementary geography, both worldwide and local. He should have a cursory knowledge of both zoology and botany. He should know the fundamentals of agriculture and corporate economy. He should be well qualified in armed combat, boxing, wrestling, judo, or the equivalent. He should know how to manage a motorcycle. He should be comfortable in at least one foreign language, and more if appropriate to his background. He should be familiar with remedial medicine.

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And, once again, here is a handy Heinlein quote:

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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

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What should a young male of 21 know and what should he be able to do? There are no conclusive answers to those questions, but they are certainly worth asking. We agreed upon "civics" or what was called American government. A young man should know how this country is run and how it got that way. He should know the Federalist Papers and de Tocqueville, and he should know recent world history. If he does not know what has been tried in the past, he cannot very well avoid those pitfalls as they come up in the future.

Superficialities, of course, are rife. A young man should be computer literate, and moreover should know Hemingway from James Joyce. He should know how to drive a car well - such as is not covered in "Driver Ed." He should know how to fly a light airplane. He should know how to shoot well. He should know elementary geography, both worldwide and local. He should have a cursory knowledge of both zoology and botany. He should know the fundamentals of agriculture and corporate economy. He should be well qualified in armed combat, boxing, wrestling, judo, or the equivalent. He should know how to manage a motorcycle. He should be comfortable in at least one foreign language, and more if appropriate to his background. He should be familiar with remedial medicine.


Maybe a young female of 21 should know these things as well?

Maybe a young man should also know, in addition to these things, how to discuss women without refering to them generally as "pussy"?


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Maybe a young female of 21 should know these things as well?

Maybe a young man should also know, in addition to these things, how to discuss women without refering to them generally as "pussy"?



Damn right.

(Aw, crud, I'm agreeing with Dick again!)

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(Aw, crud, I'm agreeing with Dick again!)


BREAKING NEWS- Vikings to win Super Bowl... ...Film at 11...
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Andrew Rothman wrote:
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BREAKING NEWS- Vikings to win Super Bowl... ...Film at 11...
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thats all it takes?


where the hell was this in '98


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birth cattle
ummm... I'm not familiar with that one.


1) She weighs ten times more than you do and doesn't want help.
2) Usually baling twine is enough to do the trick. If it isn't strong enough, you're going to need a calf puller, and unless you really know what you're doing are likely to end up with a prolapsed uterus, so you might as well just cut your losses and call the butcher (Even if you do know what you're doing you may be dealing with a calf that's too big to fit through the pelvic opening in the cow, in which case you're probably going to end up with a dead or sterile cow and a dead calf even if you do know what you're doing).
3) You have to tie twine loops around each foreleg and alternate pulling on each one until you get both shoulders past the cervix. The biggest part of a calf is its shoulders, and they sort of slide so you can get one through first.
4) You do want to be sure that the head is lined up between the front legs though in practice this is rarely a problem.
5) Infection is rarely a problem unless you reach past the cervix at some point, so don't. If it's a breech presentation you're probably better off just pulling it rather than trying to spin it although you'll probably lose the calf that way.
6) After delivery the pressure on the sciatic nerve is off so she's probably going to be able to get up and might try to butt your ass into the next zip code, so watch out.
7) Try to keep the calf out of the mud and dry it off if the cow isn't doing it.
8) If the calf isn't up and moving in ten minutes or so you're probably better off tube feeding it around 3/4 a liter of milk replacer right away.
9) Next time pick a smaller bull

Next lessons are on pregnancy checking, artificial insemination, and castration. Stay tuned.


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Serioulsy, all the metrosexual crying over being called a pussified wouse ought to stop. It's not a left or right thing, it's a sad sad state of affairs that men in America have no clue how to use a table saw, which side of the claymore faces out, how to skin a cat, cook bacon using the sun and a jar of water, change the oil in their car, sew a button back on their shirt, tie their shoes (see "crocks"), sharpen a knife, tie a square knot, tie a bow line hitch or two half hitches, how to properly fell a tree, which sex of cows milk comes from, change the toilet wax ring, fix a leaky faucet, change out an electical interface (i.e. outlet, light switch, light fixture ect..), birth cattle and finally that you don't eat skoal but instead tuck it in your lip and suck on it.

Fucking aye, at the rate we're going, Tampons will have a national holiday under the current batch of pussified wouses. [/rant]


I myself think that it's a sad state of affairs that many otherwise capable men have no clue how to write a paragraph without spelling errors, how to avoid split infinitives, or how to use common Latin abbreviations properly.


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Worst thing my wife can call a man is a pussy. That does not mean he is gay, or effeminate, or that she is in some way belittling women, what it means from her is a man who has lost the ability to Man Up.

That is not a particular skill set. It is an attitude. It is the willingness to look S*&^ in the eyes and get it over with. It is the willingness, and ability, to choke down the revulsion and sometimes vomit, and get ugly jobs done. Women do these jobs often just as men do, But men who abdicate their roles, their manhood over perceived "correctness" drive her insane.

Her favorite example was some actor who was so afraid of guns that he stated that even if his wife was being raped, he did not think he had the ability to pick up a gun and harm the man raping his wife. My wife said had I ever hinted at that possibility, she would have filed papers on me the same day.

My wife is a very caring woman who carries her own .45 ACP on a daily basis. She is also a very feminine woman who has lots of cutesy sweaters and tops, and loves to dress nice, but put jeans and carhartts on her, and she will go out and shovel the barn, feed animals, and cull piglets and or puppies as needed. For her, a man who refuses to do a man's job, is as useful as a steer at breeding.

When we talk about the pussification of America, we are talking about the same things, people who let feelings get in the way of factual data. We are talking about failing to do what is needed because we feel that some might be offended by it. Well, TS, if we are right and believe we are right, then do the job and do it right.

Sometimes it's like being a parent of a toddler, they scream and holler because they want another bowl of IceCream, but we know they have to eat their corn and carrots first, and they scream they "hate us". Well, tolerate that behavior long enough, and it becomes self fulfilling,
Grabbing the kid, sitting them down at their seat and telling them eat the corn and carrots or they will get them for breakfast, and meaning it, can be the best option. It may not be popular, but the end result is better for both.


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mnglocker wrote:
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Serioulsy, all the metrosexual crying over being called a pussified wouse ought to stop. It's not a left or right thing, it's a sad sad state of affairs that men in America have no clue how to use a table saw, which side of the claymore faces out, how to skin a cat, cook bacon using the sun and a jar of water, change the oil in their car, sew a button back on their shirt, tie their shoes (see "crocks"), sharpen a knife, tie a square knot, tie a bow line hitch or two half hitches, how to properly fell a tree, which sex of cows milk comes from, change the toilet wax ring, fix a leaky faucet, change out an electical interface (i.e. outlet, light switch, light fixture ect..), birth cattle and finally that you don't eat skoal but instead tuck it in your lip and suck on it.

Fucking aye, at the rate we're going, Tampons will have a national holiday under the current batch of pussified wouses. [/rant]


I myself think that it's a sad state of affairs that many otherwise capable men have no clue how to write a paragraph without spelling errors, how to avoid split infinitives, or how to use common Latin abbreviations properly.


Two words and a non-hyphenated "metro sexual" and you're throwing a hissy fit? I was on a roll. I think the crocks comment hit a nerve.

So if you want to insult someone, please go somewhere else and do it in person instead of behind the safety of your keyboard.

I’ve never taken any personal pot shots at you and this is what I get in return? I used to respect what you had to say in most of your post, but seriously, sniping at me over that? It leads me to question your rationality and the quantification of your past contributions to the forum.

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BrianB wrote:
Jeremiah wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
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BREAKING NEWS- Vikings to win Super Bowl... ...Film at 11...
:lol:



thats all it takes?


where the hell was this in '98


We can hope. As the season goes on, I'll try to say something conservative to say once in awhile if that'll help.....
or would that be cheating? :P


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Worst thing my wife can call a man is a pussy. That does not mean he is gay, or effeminate, or that she is in some way belittling women, what it means from her is a man who has lost the ability to Man Up.


Why can't we leave the gender roles and offensive language out of it? There are people of all genders and cultural backgrounds who perhaps need to toughen up, learn how to make hard choices, serve as the leader of their family, and deal with disgusting tasks.

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That is not a particular skill set. It is an attitude. It is the willingness to look S*&^ in the eyes and get it over with. It is the willingness, and ability, to choke down the revulsion and sometimes vomit, and get ugly jobs done. Women do these jobs often just as men do, But men who abdicate their roles, their manhood over perceived "correctness" drive her insane.


I'm confused. It appears as though you are saying that women and men both deal with tough problems, but when men abdicate their responsibilities in this area it somehow undermines their maleness while when women abdicate their responsibilities here it's OK. That doesn't make much sense to me.

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Her favorite example was some actor who was so afraid of guns that he stated that even if his wife was being raped, he did not think he had the ability to pick up a gun and harm the man raping his wife. My wife said had I ever hinted at that possibility, she would have filed papers on me the same day.


The problem with vignettes like this is that it is vanishingly rare for the choices to be that easy. I think that the decision on whether or not to carry, and by extension whether and when to respond with lethal force, is a very personal one. While it is true that some people approach the topic out of ignorance, there are people who would choose not to use lethal means in self-defense. While that is not my choice, it is a choice that I respect.

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My wife is a very caring woman who carries her own .45 ACP on a daily basis. She is also a very feminine woman who has lots of cutesy sweaters and tops, and loves to dress nice, but put jeans and carhartts on her, and she will go out and shovel the barn, feed animals, and cull piglets and or puppies as needed. For her, a man who refuses to do a man's job, is as useful as a steer at breeding.

When we talk about the pussification of America, we are talking about the same things, people who let feelings get in the way of factual data. We are talking about failing to do what is needed because we feel that some might be offended by it. Well, TS, if we are right and believe we are right, then do the job and do it right.


What you're doing here is wrapping up a bunch of unrelated stuff under the heading of the "pussification of America" and then declaring that anyone who disagrees with you on any element of it either has or deserves a small penis. I don't think that's an especially insightful approach to discussion. One of the many difficulties with that approach to discussion is that it marginalizes the role that women play in society, since by your logic above, women like you wife occasionally need to "man up" under your logic.

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Sometimes it's like being a parent of a toddler, they scream and holler because they want another bowl of IceCream, but we know they have to eat their corn and carrots first, and they scream they "hate us". Well, tolerate that behavior long enough, and it becomes self fulfilling, Grabbing the kid, sitting them down at their seat and telling them eat the corn and carrots or they will get them for breakfast, and meaning it, can be the best option. It may not be popular, but the end result is better for both.


Those are easy. Explaining what condomns are, why they're important, and how to use them is an area where many more parents fail to fulfil their obligations.


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