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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:37 am 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212452/Gang-culture-rife-police-officers-warns-barrister.html

'Gang culture' and 'mob mentality' rife among police officers, warns top barrister.

(for the English, english challanged, a Barrister is a lawyer who can argue a case in court, not a person who serves coffee).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:23 am 
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(for the English, english challanged, a Barrister is a lawyer who can argue a case in court, not a person who serves coffee).
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If they're on the bottom of the totem pole in a practice they fetch coffee. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:42 am 
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Again, the failed Us vs Them training methods and culture is coming back to haunt the police. Community Policing in the old style,












I have a good friend who is a retired CPD officer. He believes that most Police Training could be replaced by playing Andy of Mayberry shows over and over again. He worked in Cabrini Green and the Sullivan Projects most of his career, he found knowing the connections, and the personalities of the people he was working with, (as he called his job, working with the people) was more important than having the latest and greatest gear, He started out before officer radios, using call boxes, and he felt that led to better awareness of the area, when the officer had to know that help was not a whistle away in the radio.

Tip O'Neill said all politics are local, and all crime patrol is local as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:24 pm 
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Blued Steel wrote:
. . . He believes that most Police Training could be replaced by playing Andy of Mayberry shows over and over again. He worked in Cabrini Green and the Sullivan Projects most of his career, he found knowing the connections, and the personalities of the people he was working with, (as he called his job, working with the people) was more important than having the latest and greatest gear, He started out before officer radios, using call boxes, and he felt that led to better awareness of the area, when the officer had to know that help was not a whistle away in the radio.

Tip O'Neill said all politics are local, and all crime patrol is local as well.


What then to do with those overweight, insecure, loud-voiced, shaved head, gadget-intranced, attention-deficit officers that are now employed?


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What then to do with those overweight, insecure, loud-voiced, shaved head, gadget-intranced, attention-deficit officers that are now employed?

Have them apply for jobs at BATF. They'll fit in just fine.

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Blued Steel wrote:
I have a good friend who is a retired CPD officer. He believes that most Police Training could be replaced by playing Andy of Mayberry shows over and over again. He worked in Cabrini Green and the Sullivan Projects most of his career, he found knowing the connections, and the personalities of the people he was working with, (as he called his job, working with the people) was more important than having the latest and greatest gear, He started out before officer radios, using call boxes, and he felt that led to better awareness of the area, when the officer had to know that help was not a whistle away in the radio.

Tip O'Neill said all politics are local, and all crime patrol is local as well.


I work a rural part of a rural county. It takes years to get the people to trust you and talk to you. Just today I was talking to a local ne'er do well who owned an ATV that I had just stopped for a violation. Last time I dealt with him, he was hammered, and wanted to fight. I nearly had to take him to jail. Today, he apologized. Don't know if he meant it, but he said it, and that's about the best I can expect.

The officers who don't know their beats are at a real disadvantage.

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