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 Wife is interested in Charter .32 Pink Lady 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:40 pm 
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Let me tell you why before you guys start in on me. She has bad arthritis in her fingers and had joint replacements put into trigger and middle fingers of right hand. She has a lot of trouble pulling the trigger of her Taurus 85 .38 titanium even after I had a gunsmith lighten the springs. She cannot rack a slide so revolvers are out. She has the older model Barrette .380 with a tip-up barrel but it's too big for her to carry.
That's where we get to the Charter Arms .32 Pink Lady at ~12 oz. Does anyone know what the trigger pull is like compared to a .38 J-frame? I think that with enough exercise her finger will get stronger but in the mean time she insists on carrying in her purse and I hate to have her carry something that she has trouble shooting. We will go check them out but I just wondered if anyone had experience with them. :?

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What she needs a carry auto with you setting it up with the safety on, hammer back. that will be the easiest to use, then sew a thumbsnap holster into her purse.

I have a couple of guns for her to try if she likes I will trade you for that tip barrel .380.

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Maybe a 22 auto like the Walther g22 for awhile. i know it's not the best for self defense, but the slide is very easy to pull back and something is better than nothing.

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A 22LR or 32 revolver is a good choice. Another heavier gun that have great triggers are 2" K-frame revolvers like Model 10 or 15 or 64 or 65.

The Bersa Tunder 380 is a very mild shooting gun with a surprisingly good trigger pull.

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Racking the slide is a matter of technique as much as strength.

We he-men can get away with bad technique, but for someone with strength issues, technique becomes important.

Unless she is very frail or disabled, she is probably more capable of working the slide than you (or she) thinks.

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Try it this way yourself, convince yourself it works, then help her learn to do it:

you want to do things in close to your body This gets the gun in tight and lets us use larger muscles rather than the fingers.

With the gun pointed down range across chest,shooting arm bent at elbow. Shooter is parallel to the line of fire (perpendicular to the target or backstop)

The support hand should also be in tight and close. The idea is to use the shoulders / arms themselves to manipulate the slide.

Grasp across the top of the slide with the whole support hand. Think of enclosing it in a taco made of your hand.

The shooting hand is holding the grip, the only thing the off hand has to do is hold the slide and you have the WHOLE hand to do that. Use the arms to manipulate the slide.

push forward across your body with the strong hand/arm and gun as you push backwards across your body with the support hand/arm and slide. When the slide is all the way back, simply let it go to sling shot home. Don't ride it.

Eventually, this will become a motion of pushing in two opposite directions quickly and just letting go. It's a gross motor skill and uses a LOT of the upper body instead of the fingers.

Man is that a lot of text where a couple pictures or a good video would work. Sorry, I can't get to those at work.

Remember muzzle control as you try this for the first time. you DON'T want the muzzle to point at the torso or the support hand / arm at ANY time. you want the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

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Andrew Rothman wrote:
Racking the slide is a matter of technique as much as strength.

Unless she is very frail or disabled, she is probably more capable of working the slide than you (or she) thinks.


+1.

See Paul's excellent description for technique. My Dad, in his 80's thoguht he could only shoot revolvers because of his extreme arthritis. Now he shoots a tricked out Colt .45acp.

For some reason the instinct is to pull the slide instead of push the gun. I'm still working with my wife to overcome this. I can "manhandle" the slides on my autos but as I age and my own arthritis kicks in (inherited - thanks Pop) I'm actually having to practice what I preach. :oops:

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Thanks for all of the quick advice from all of you - that's the great thing about a forum like this.
First, she would never part with her .380 tip-up as she loves that gun and shoots it really well at the range. If anyone knows the 'Lady with the southern accent - NRA Instructor of Instructors' (I can't remember her name but if you met her you wound know who I'm talking about) she was my instructor for my NRA Instructor Certification for Pistol and Self Protection - I sent my wife to her for personal instruction. The Beretta 86 .380 tip-up was the only pistol that she could shoot well so my wife talked her into selling it to her. My wife has had instruction by me and other instructors as to how to rack a slide so that's not the issue. I think that it really comes down to the fact that pink is her favorite color therefore that .32 Pink Lady will solve her problems because she will like the color so much that she will make it work for her. Charter Arms offered to lighten up the spring for free if we order a new one. I think that you guys understand what I'm talking about - only the pink one will work so that's what she will get. All I care about is that she has a gun that she can shoot, practice & carry. I'm just glad to have a wife that wants to go to the range with me and is serious about carry. :D

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As an alternative, you could also buy a S&W j-frame and have it fitted with pink mother of pearl grips.

The sideplates won't be pink, but I think it would be a whole lot classier.

Something like this:

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(Yeah, I know that's a Taurus, but you get the idea)

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GABCO wrote:
If anyone knows the 'Lady with the southern accent - NRA Instructor of Instructors...


Andrea Murphy. I understand she's moved south.

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All I care about is that she has a gun that she can shoot, practice & carry. I'm just glad to have a wife that wants to go to the range with me and is serious about carry. :D


Pardon my glowing neon green skin .. I'm more than a bit jealous but still happy for you ;-)

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Andrew Rothman wrote:
GABCO wrote:
If anyone knows the 'Lady with the southern accent - NRA Instructor of Instructors...


Andrea Murphy. I understand she's moved south.


Yes! Thank you - she did move back to Texas. She is one of a kind and it was fun to have her as my instructor for the three days - I hated to see it end. I may have forgotten her name momentarily but I will never forget her. She was all business but a lot of fun at the same time.

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DeanC wrote:
As an alternative, you could also buy a S&W j-frame and have it fitted with pink mother of pearl grips.

The sideplates won't be pink, but I think it would be a whole lot classier.

Something like this:

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(Yeah, I know that's a Taurus, but you get the idea)


I thought about that but she already has her Taurus 85 titanium in light blue and I had lighter springs installed. If weight was the main issue she could use my S&W J-frame 357sc as it's only 13 oz. but I'd have to lighten the spring and humiliate my gun by putting pink grips on it - I just can't do it. She can buy her own gun.
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