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 What does this decocker thing do? 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:29 am 
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Where do I even frickin' start - at the outdoor range with the father-in-law this weekend playing with his new CZ. First thing he says to me is, "you are going to have to show me how that decocker works, sometimes the hammer drops all the way while I am pulling the trigger at the same time"......tick-tock......time stops....

A quick lesson later on how the decocker works and to keep your damn meat-hooks away from the trigger and we were golden - but COME-ON!

As a disclaimer, he is one of the handiest, outdoorsy, manly-men I know, in fact I am rather intimidated by him sometimes - made me wish more folks took intro to handgun classes before they purchase something they are unfamiliar with...

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A friend of mine owned some kind of 9mm with a decocker. He'd had it for years and never used the decocker, wasn't sure what it was for. At the range once, I told him I was pretty sure it was a decocking lever (I wasn't positive myself at the time as all I owned then was 1911s), but he didn't dare try it because he wasn't sure what it would do.

Seems lots of people don't bother learning the details of a machine they use beyond what they feel they need to know. Like some people with turn signals.


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It seems like something that simple would be covered in the owners manual...

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Give Pop some friendly (although very assertive) advice:

"Keep your bugger hook off the bang switch unless you are ready to destroy something" :!:

A thorough read of the manual, a little coaching and advice, some practice, and he'll probably be just fine.

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ironbear wrote:
It seems like something that simple would be covered in the owners manual...

You know what they say. If all else fails, read the instructions. If that doesn't work... follow them! :twisted:


There's the rub, somehow the manual is where he got the idea from! Will have to take a look for myself the next time I am at the house.

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Depends upon the manufacturer. In the case of an HK, the de-cocking mechanism lowers the hammer which is blocked from striking the firing pin until the trigger is pulled which both pulls the hammer back and lowers the block to allow the hammer to hit the striker.


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A friend of mine owned some kind of 9mm with a decocker. He'd had it for years and never used the decocker, wasn't sure what it was for. At the range once, I told him I was pretty sure it was a decocking lever (I wasn't positive myself at the time as all I owned then was 1911s), but he didn't dare try it because he wasn't sure what it would do.

Seems lots of people don't bother learning the details of a machine they use beyond what they feel they need to know. Like some people with turn signals.



Does anyone else here generally have a dislike of firearm safety mechanisms? I've seen more people dinking around with safeties, decocking levers, and not paying attention to more critical things like where the muzzle is pointed, and where their fingers are.

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Does anyone else here generally have a dislike of firearm safety mechanisms? I've seen more people dinking around with safeties, decocking levers, and not paying attention to more critical things like where the muzzle is pointed, and where their fingers are.


I don't dislike them and I believe it's possible to pay attention to both at the same time.

But your experiences are a good reason to become familiar with how your firearm works BEFORE you load it.

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Try being an RO on and IPSC, IDPA or Steel Shoot Range, it's enough to give you gray hair with the lack of attention to general safety, never mind "the Safety".
From an RO's POV most people haven't spent enough time getting to know their firearm, consequently on an Action shooting range they don't have a brain cell to spare to find their way around the gun. That said, with some experience and a little coaching most competitors become competent after 8 or 10 matches (I have to say it :D :D :D ) as Andrew is beginning to prove.

For the record, Andrew's gun handling is pretty good and he only gave me cause for (minor) concern at the first steel shoot.
:D :D :D :D :D :D

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gyrfalcon wrote:
Does anyone else here generally have a dislike of firearm safety mechanisms? I've seen more people dinking around with safeties, decocking levers, and not paying attention to more critical things like where the muzzle is pointed, and where their fingers are.

That would be me. :)

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Even so, I have to admit that I was gently reminded by a certain RO once, that there's no need to rotate the muzzle past the vertical when unloading a revolver.


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got a decoker on mine, got no problem with it ...

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Try being an RO on and IPSC, IDPA or Steel Shoot Range, it's enough to give you gray hair with the lack of attention to general safety, never mind "the Safety".
From an RO's POV most people haven't spent enough time getting to know their firearm, consequently on an Action shooting range they don't have a brain cell to spare to find their way around the gun. That said, with some experience and a little coaching most competitors become competent after 8 or 10 matches (I have to say it :D :D :D ) as Andrew is beginning to prove.

For the record, Andrew's gun handling is pretty good and he only gave me cause for (minor) concern at the first steel shoot.
:D :D :D :D :D :D


Plbbbbt!

At the steel shoot on Saturday, I was the RO for a guy who did the "hammer down" step before the "unload and show clear" step (and before receiving any damn instructions).

The gun was pointed in a safe direction, so he only made a new divot in the ground, but no one was very pleased it happened.

As I say in class, "Adrenaline makes you slow, stupid, clumsy and forgetful."

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Andrew Rothman wrote:
Selurcspi wrote:
Try being an RO on and IPSC, IDPA or Steel Shoot Range, it's enough to give you gray hair with the lack of attention to general safety, never mind "the Safety".
From an RO's POV most people haven't spent enough time getting to know their firearm, consequently on an Action shooting range they don't have a brain cell to spare to find their way around the gun. That said, with some experience and a little coaching most competitors become competent after 8 or 10 matches (I have to say it :D :D :D ) as Andrew is beginning to prove.

For the record, Andrew's gun handling is pretty good and he only gave me cause for (minor) concern at the first steel shoot.
:D :D :D :D :D :D


Plbbbbt!

At the steel shoot on Saturday, I was the RO for a guy who did the "hammer down" step before the "unload and show clear" step (and before receiving any damn instructions).

The gun was pointed in a safe direction, so he only made a new divot in the ground, but no one was very pleased it happened.

As I say in class, "Adrenaline makes you slow, stupid, clumsy and forgetful."


I'll bet you felt "slow, stupid, clumsy and forgetful" right after that gun went bang......I know when I've been the RO and the same thing happened, I felt that way. I think my above comment about no brain cells left to spare was the situation that caused the incident, let's hope that was all the training needed to improve the person's gun handling.

Saturday's ND was the perfect example of what can happen if a person is not paying attention to how they handle the gun. A perfect storm situation can develop until there is a hole where there shouldn't be one. Thankfully on Saturday it was in the dirt on the range, not a person, at least that rule (never point a gun at something you are not willing to destroy) was observed even if several others were broken.

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