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Binky .357
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Post subject: Rural Wisdom Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:25 pm |
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Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 3:02 am Posts: 816 Location: South of the River Suburbs
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A Minnesota Deputy Sheriff stops at a farm in rural Minnesota and talks with an old farmer. He tells the farmer, 'I need to inspect your farm for illegal drugs.'The old farmer says, 'Okay, but don't go in that field over there.'The Sheriif verbally explodes saying, 'Mister, I have the authority of the Sheriff's Department with me.' Reaching into his rear pant pocket and removing his badge.
The officer proudly displays it to the farmer. 'See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish, on any land. No questions asked or answers given.Have I made myself clear? Do you understand?'The old farmer nods politely and goes about his chores.
Later, the old farmer hears loud screams and spies the Sheriff running for his life and close behind is the farmer's bull. With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer. The Sheriff is clearly terrified.The old farmer immediately throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs. 'Your badge!Show him your badge, Smartass!
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RLS59
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:24 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:24 pm Posts: 158 Location: Rochester
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Lawyer_in_Training
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:43 am |
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Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:22 pm Posts: 339 Location: Suburban Twin Cities, MN
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Yep. Law enforcement officers with that kind of attitude don't tend to last very long in rural areas.
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Carbide Insert
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:32 am |
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Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:36 am Posts: 760 Location: Hutchinson, MN
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Unfortunately, today they would just shoot the bull.
After all, they have the badge.
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MostlyHarmless
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:59 am |
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Joined: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:24 pm Posts: 471 Location: 12 miles east of Lake Wobegon
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Carry weapons will not stop cattle.
Personal experience.
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Carbide Insert
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:05 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:36 am Posts: 760 Location: Hutchinson, MN
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MostlyHarmless wrote: Carry weapons will not stop cattle. I don't doubt you. But my comment still stands. Carbide Insert wrote: Unfortunately, today they would just shoot the bull.
(Irrelevant sidebar: The animal would die later from the wounds, no?)
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But it remains true that from time to time they collaborate on something that's both stupid and evil and call it bipartisanship. -Thomas E. Woods Jr.
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MostlyHarmless
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:17 pm |
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Carbide Insert wrote: (Irrelevant sidebar: The animal would die later from the wounds, no?)
An adult bull? Probably not without a lucky hit. They're 2500 pound animals, very muscular, more so than wild game. I was trying to put a cow down one time and shot it in the head point blank with an entire cylinder of full-boat .357s, none of which penetrated the skill. Didn't faze it a bit.
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:39 pm |
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MostlyHarmless wrote: Carry weapons will not stop cattle.
Personal experience.
Yes they will, it has all to do with shot placement and even a .22 rimfire can drop them in their tracks.
Also based on personal experience.
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Binky .357
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:12 pm |
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cobb wrote: MostlyHarmless wrote: Carry weapons will not stop cattle.
Personal experience. Yes they will, it has all to do with shot placement and even a .22 rimfire can drop them in their tracks. Also based on personal experience.
I'm sure you're both right on the money.
If a person has ample time to line up the shot on a target under ideal conditions and keep all the fundamentals of accurate shooting in mind, you could drop a bull with a single shot.
If a person is running in terror with the bull gaining ground, the running man could fire 10 rounds from a .45 and not faze the charging animal.
If I recall, adrenaline isn't exclusively a human horomone...
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"We're either gonna be the best of friends or there's gonna be a whole lotta shootin' goin' on."
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"You'd be amazed at the things a bullet can stop." -Old Irish Proverb
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:15 pm |
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But I think the point is, the badge should have stopped the bull.
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mrokern
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:53 pm |
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Binky .357 wrote: cobb wrote: MostlyHarmless wrote: Carry weapons will not stop cattle.
Personal experience. Yes they will, it has all to do with shot placement and even a .22 rimfire can drop them in their tracks. Also based on personal experience. I'm sure you're both right on the money. If a person has ample time to line up the shot on a target under ideal conditions and keep all the fundamentals of accurate shooting in mind, you could drop a bull with a single shot. If a person is running in terror with the bull gaining ground, the running man could fire 10 rounds from a .45 and not faze the charging animal. If I recall, adrenaline isn't exclusively a human horomone...
And believe me, that's exactly the position I'd be shooting from!
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onebohemian
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:17 pm |
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cobb wrote: MostlyHarmless wrote: Carry weapons will not stop cattle.
Personal experience. Yes they will, it has all to do with shot placement and even a .22 rimfire can drop them in their tracks. Also based on personal experience.
We dropped every steer every year with one .22 rimfire round for butchering when I grew up. Granted, you didn't want to wait around to see whether it might stand back up or not, so you moved on to the next step -- which I'll keep to myself -- quickly.
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:05 am |
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cobb wrote: Yes they will, it has all to do with shot placement and even a .22 rimfire can drop them in their tracks. Also based on personal experience.
But have you tested your theory on a badger?
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mrokern
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:08 am |
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gyrfalcon wrote: cobb wrote: Yes they will, it has all to do with shot placement and even a .22 rimfire can drop them in their tracks. Also based on personal experience. But have you tested your theory on a badger?
I won't get anywhere NEAR one of those blasted oversized rodents. They exist simply as a mechanism to transport teeth, claws, and one nasty temper.
-Mark
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Traveler
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:01 am |
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MostlyHarmless wrote: Carry weapons will not stop cattle.
Personal experience.
A .22 rimfire will certainly kill a beef steer. Unfortunately my brother learned that lesson decades ago. We were crossing a farmer's field going from one hunting area to another up in Stearns County. Halfway across a steer became curious, as they are want to do, and started following us at a trot, and quickly catching up to us. My brother feared for his life, raised his squirrel gun, and fired.
The result was that it set my father back many hundreds of dollars. Thank God back then sherrifs did not necessarily get involved.
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