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 Complaining about Joel Over at Day Care 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:57 pm 
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It's great to read all the bickering that goes on on both sites. Makes me feel like a kid again......LOL


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Well, one nice thing about both boards now is you can choose a specified user and put them on your ignore list and not have to read their posts at all. It spared me some real irritation AFAIK on MGT and probably will here too. :wink:
If you're going to do that here, please note that in the mod/admin group.

Did somebody say something?

I'm kidding of course. For the record I am not ignoring anyone at this time. Those I ignored were so bad they were banned from both boards.

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It's great to read all the bickering that goes on on both sites. Makes me feel like a kid again......LOL


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It's funny how many people claim to have been kicked out for just disagreeing with Joel. Hell, if that was true half of the mods and admins around here would be gone.


Hell, when I did it he promoted me... :lol:

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It's funny how many people claim to have been kicked out for just disagreeing with Joel. Hell, if that was true half of the mods and admins around here would be gone.


Hell, when I did it he promoted me... :lol:

Yeah, but that's as far as it goes, bucko. Just disagreeing with me again won't get you site ownership. So there.

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It's funny how many people claim to have been kicked out for just disagreeing with Joel. Hell, if that was true half of the mods and admins around here would be gone.


Hell, when I did it he promoted me... :lol:


What makes you think he was doing you a favor? :wink:


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Then again, today I can't log in to the other site. Not accepting the new password I had it generate.

Hmmm, maybe I could start a conspiracy thread.

Nah. Been done. :lol:

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It's funny how many people claim to have been kicked out for just disagreeing with Joel. Hell, if that was true half of the mods and admins around here would be gone.


Hell, when I did it he promoted me... :lol:

Yeah, but that's as far as it goes, bucko. Just disagreeing with me again won't get you site ownership. So there.


wow, i can't believe my eyes. i wake up and make coffee, then start reading the gun forums. the first thing i notice on mnguntalk is that Joel Rosenberg has been banned for 30 days. what's up with this?

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Why would anybody care? You seem to be fixated on this, for some reason or other.

[ETA: and now we know why Ezra/EZDynamics/Josh was so fixated. Sheesh. Move out of your Mom's basement and get a job, kiddo.]

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 Post subject: Re: Complaining about Joel Over at Day Car
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Oh dear fucking heaven, I think I'm done over there.

What a whack off fest in that thread. :?

When a few specific people show up at the capitol and actually start calling legislators rather than fawning over each other, then they can call themselves 2A fans. Until then, they're just running their mouths.

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What gets me is that how much it seems that otherwise rational, grown men cannot just let stuff go. Armed men, I might add. Sheesh.

The division our community has produced will only be rewarded by the laughter of the antis, I fear.

One of the mods over there is now accusing Joel of creating "jonahwaters" (and possibly others) as a sock puppet. Hmm.

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What gets me is that how much it seems that otherwise rational, grown men cannot just let stuff go. Armed men, I might add. Sheesh.


Me, I'm a member of a tribe that's still pissed off at the Amalekites, and we killed the last of them millennia -- plural -- ago.

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The division our community has produced will only be rewarded by the laughter of the antis, I fear.

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Oh dear fucking heaven, I think I'm done over there.

What a whack off fest in that thread. :?

When a few specific people show up at the capitol and actually start calling legislators rather than fawning over each other, then they can call themselves 2A fans. Until then, they're just running their mouths.

-Mark

To be fair, some small number of the kiddies have actually done a little activism in the past; several of them (perhaps as many as six?) have actually shown up at one hearing (I credit plblark for a lot of hard work on that), and I've been told that a few have made some phone calls and maybe written an email or two*. Tom Tousignant was pretty active during the (successful, as it happens, although it was a very close thing, and if it wasn't for Andrea Murphy running her mouth over at Gander at precisely the wrong/right time, it probably would have happened) attempts to prevent the MSA from taking over instructor certification and cutting themselves and the MCA in for a (presumably large) piece of it back in late 2005.

But, yeah, mostly they just run their mouths. Andy "Pinnacle" Shapero is probably the worst -- he's got no interest, he says, in activism around 2A issues, but he's got a lot of interest in telling people who are actually Doing Stuff that they better not make waves while he's jumping up and down, pissing himself, and inciting panic among the other kiddies. Well, at least it's been almost two years now since I got a hangup call from him. (Strong language to follow. Really.)

That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with people having hobbies. I play bridge, myself. Some folks collect wine, or dolls, others guns. (I do all of that. Except for the dolls.) But at least the doll fanciers don't, far as I know, claim that they're doing anything important.

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The division our community has produced will only be rewarded by the laughter of the antis, I fear.

Unlikely. Other than getting that stupid metro-area exemption on the stupid GunsInPickups bill, it's been an utterly lousy couple of years for them. My guess is that even Heather hasn't heard about the day care kiddies -- if so, she'd likely be fingerpointing and jeering and using doofi like Shapero and Jeremy as poster boys for fundraising. And she definitely hasn't been doing that.

But it might happen, sure. [ETA: hell, there's a strong argument that I should point her at them; been thinking about it for a couple of years, now.]

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