Defensive handgun in the woods
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Pinnacle
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Post subject: Defensive handgun in the woods Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:53 am |
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:41 pm Posts: 1807 Location: Western Burbs of MPLS
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Is it legal to carry my 40 in the woods? I would like to confirm this and I think that I already knwo the answer for this question but I would like to be sure...
Thanks for the assistance.
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joelr
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Post subject: Re: Defensive handgun in the woods Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:06 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:43 am Posts: 7970 Location: Minneapolis MN
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Pinnacle wrote: Is it legal to carry my 40 in the woods? I would like to confirm this and I think that I already knwo the answer for this question but I would like to be sure...
Thanks for the assistance. Sure. Not legal to hunt with it, but you can carry it for personal protection.
Me, I'm carrying my .44 Magnum, but it's doing double-duty -- it's legal for Bambi, too.
_________________ Just a guy.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:06 pm |
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Theoretically yes. The DNR Conservation Officers however may not be fully educated on all of the aspects of the MPPA. The regs say you cannot carry a sidearm when bow hunting and I'm pretty sure when turkey hunting.
The CO's also have very broad powers (unconstitutional maybe) of search and seizure when in the field. They are a law unto themsleves until your hearing which may be several months later.
Best bet, carry a sidearm that is legal for deer (or small game) when deer hunting:
Legal Big Game Pistol Cartridges
* 10 mm Automatic (shorter than 1.285" case but legal by statute 97B.031 subd.7c)
* 357 Herrett
* 357 Magnum
* 357 Remington Max
* 41 Remington Magnum
* 44 Remington Magnum
* 44 Auto Mag
* 440 Corbin Magnum
* 45 Colt (45 Long Colt)
* 45 Winchester Mag (legal by statute exemption, case is shorter than 1.285)
* 454 Casull
* 475 Linebaugh
* 460 S&W Magnum
* 480 Ruger
* 50 Action Express (legal by statute exemption, case is shorter than 1.285)
* 50 Alaskan
* 50-110
* 500 Smith & Wesson Magnum
_________________ I am defending myself... in favor of that!
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Pinnacle
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:11 pm |
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:41 pm Posts: 1807 Location: Western Burbs of MPLS
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Thanks....
I will likely wind up carrying my 44. But the 40 would be a whole lot easier.
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Rem700
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:47 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:46 am Posts: 257 Location: Blaine, Mn
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Depends on if you have a carry permit or not
If the officer is not up on the law it specifies it in the Mn hunting regulation that is available at most license retailers.
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Blackriv73
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:16 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:13 am Posts: 140 Location: North Minneapolis
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I'm pretty sure my CCW instructor told me not to carry on state land to avoid being the first to have to sue the DNR (since they don't technically recognize my right to carry, yet).
Does anyone know if they have jurisdiction over you on your own land while hunting? Or is it just state land? I own a recreational plot up north and will be carrying my 40.
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gunflint
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:02 am |
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What part of the woods? In Superior National Forest you can open carry without a permit. I believe that National Parks are the only place you will have problems.
_________________ "I wish it to be remembered that I was the last man of my tribe to surrender my rifle" Sitting Bull
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Blackriv73
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:07 am |
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You could be right. I'm sure it will depend on what the officer thinks if I run into one.
Is there a website somewhere out there on this? Or maybe a previous post? I've been to the DNR site but I can't find anything.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:19 am |
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The DNR hunting regs are here: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regula ... l_regs.pdf
The permit to carry notice is on page 24 and says:
Quote: The “Concealed carry or permit to carry” provisions apply to certain hunting activities. Persons with a permit under this law generally may carry their handguns uncased and loaded while hunting, and while traveling to or from hunting locations by motor vehicle under the hunting firearms transportation laws. However, possession of the handgun while 'shining' or while hunting deer by archery would still subject the possessor to the provisions of these laws (see page 32, artificial lights, for more info).
It would be legal to carry your .40 cal pistol while hunting. I still think however, to avoid undue scrutiny, it would be best to carry a gun in a legal caliber for the game you are hunting. But, it's your call.
And yes, the DNR CO's can enter private land to check on hunting activities.
_________________ I am defending myself... in favor of that!
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:42 am |
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:50 am |
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I'd go with Andrew on this one since
a) he's right
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b) it was Andrew and MADFI who got us resolution.
Thanks again, Andrew.
note: If you're archery hunting, the DNR does NOT recognize the permit as excluding you from the NO FIREARMS while archery hunting rules.
_________________ Certified Carry Permit Instructor (MNTactics.com and ShootingSafely.com) Click here for current Carry Classes "There is no safety for honest men, except by believing all possible evil of evil men." - Edwin Burke
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Blackriv73
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:14 pm |
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I'm glad I was wrong. Thanks Andrew!
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jdege
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Post subject: Re: Defensive handgun in the woods Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:46 pm |
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Pinnacle wrote: Is it legal to carry my 40 in the woods?
Remember, hunting sober is like fishing.
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cobb
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Post subject: Re: Defensive handgun in the woods Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:57 pm |
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jdege wrote: Remember, hunting sober is like fishing.
Oh ya, that was funny..............
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Inebrius
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:58 am |
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Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 9:30 pm Posts: 197 Location: Minneapolis
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In 25 + years of hunting I've only ran into a CO once and that was at Carlos Avery (not exactly out in the real wilderness).
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